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don't know what you can see around the

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country right now if what they're

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showing but it's it's it's it's

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unbelievable to see the fires burning at

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night where you just look at the

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mountains and and you can see everything

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burning and glowing because during the

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day it's all smoke and you don't really

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see it but at night man it's a it's

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frightening so that's what we went

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through today and it is continuing

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around us and above us and we've got

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many multiple fires burning right now we

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are safe we prepped all day

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the evacuation orders at one point came

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about a mile maybe a little less when

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they were naming streets and talking

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about things and and stuff it's it's a

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roof it's sobering it's like what that's

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close so and we posted pictures and you

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can see exactly what we were dealing

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so we went out also today now look here

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in the bunker and over at the house

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things like food water flashlights

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batteries all of that stuff we're good

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to go

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okay fully engaged in that area we're

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okay we're ready to go if we have to go

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we're not going to do anything unsafe

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what we did do here in the bunker is we

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installed additional battery backup

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systems when the lights were going off

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last night when the power went off you

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notice that a couple of computers stayed

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they stayed glowing in here

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and those are on battery backups now

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everything and we just ignored it you

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know we know we didn't think it would

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ever come down to it but that's you know

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that's being stupid

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so anyway because there's nothing worse

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than being in the dark right but now we

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have backup power for everything

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everything so hopefully if anything goes

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down tonight well at least the show is

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gonna go on if we have to bail in the

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middle of the show we will always be

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safe and and we'll let you know okay and

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there you go tonight Linda Moulton Howe

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is here and we do this every single year

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with Linda right now and anyway I was

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just thinking about last year in the

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year before but so we're gonna do you

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know look back at 2017 we have some

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really cool things to talk about of

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course look forward to 2018 look at

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these natural disasters and the fires

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and and the noises and booms being heard

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around the world so we're gonna discuss

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all of that tonight and much more as

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Linda can we are also because this is a

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special broadcast tonight we are going

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to feed this out on to YouTube which is

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going out there now so hello to

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everybody okay we're alive we're good

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and we go we go live live in 10 seconds

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this hope radio for the masses headliner

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between July 8 1947 the Army Air Force

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has announced on applying their - found

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and is now in the possession of the army

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the game is rigged change the game

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changer I occasionally think how quickly

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our differences worldwide would vanish

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Church on the game changer radio network

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today's Tuesday December 5th 339 days

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into the new year Jeff 26 days left

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that's right tonight we are live from

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our bunker somewhere in downtown Burbank

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California and I would like to welcome

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everybody listening all around the world

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today was a very surreal day I'll get to

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all of that in just a bit of course

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because above us Burbank is full of

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burning around us right now as we

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broadcast I'll get to all of that in

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just a bit but the show must go on now

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we're not gonna do anything unsafe if we

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have to bail if we have to evacuate we

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will but until that point let's try to

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all right she's back with us and tonight

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we're gonna do a variety of things but

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we're gonna do a 2017

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irin revue kind of wrap-up show because

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so much stuff happened this year and

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things are going down right now with

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Linda and her reporting and her research

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so we're gonna discuss all of that

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tonight and we'll take a look also into

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the future in 2018 and tomorrow night

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everybody david icke will be here live

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from England and we're gonna discuss his

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new book everything you need to know but

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Jon Rappoport followed by open lines all

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this is a special broadcast we averted

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but our house is cool the flames and and

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incredible any questions or comments

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these fires burning all over Southern

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California and as I speak to you tonight

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we've got a huge fire burning right now

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above us they're calling that it's right

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next to Burbank they're calling that the

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Sylmar fire it's it's just it's just in

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the mountains right here behind us and

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called Sunland and and then down below

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and damn where there's a golf course and

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stuff and that is in between us and

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got five percent containment right now

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it's now exceeded five thousand acres

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here on top of us that's 11,000 acres

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houses have burnt there I have no idea

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how many homes have burned out in

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right now here in the bunker and it is

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beach and looking at it now it's it's

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beautiful places ever and and the reason

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for that is the gorgeous mountains

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there it is completely out of control it

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is just a ring of fire that is that is

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this morning okay so let's let's back up

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so last night during the broadcast as we

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these 50 mile an hour winds and and as

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thing that pops in your mind the first

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thing is fires okay who's gonna be first

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what what you know what's gonna go down

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really out of control and I said that

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going down here routers and all kinds of

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things you know they all have to get

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rebooted we decided that there's just no

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way we can continue with the show so we

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go home close up the bunker you know we

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go and power is on and off all night

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long and the wind stuff bouncing off of

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our house you could just hear stuff all

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night long house shaking in the wind it

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was it was rough right and so I get up

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early this morning and I go outside to

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check out our house to make sure things

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were intact and I smell smoke

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right and I'm like man what's that now

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and I knew about the fire in Ventura so

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I am thinking this morning wow the winds

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at 75 miles away and it scary that's

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that's a lot of smoke that you know

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that's what I was thinking what I didn't

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know that over my shoulder on the other

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side of our house if I had gone out to

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the front I would have seen the hills

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burning and and the fire coming at us

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and but I did not go on a side man

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what's going on and it was our daughter

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she's out in front of the house and she

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facetimes I was like oh my goodness and

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so it's been like that all day long

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evacuation orders things you know I

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immediately called Linda and had a

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conversation with her I don't know if

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the show's gonna go down tonight I don't

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know what's going on of course it was

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all it'll be safe do what you got to do

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if we do the show great if we don't

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great but you know it you know it's

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family and and and things first you know

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and she's right so we had to ride this

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out so we got everything ready here in

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in Southern California you know of

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course you know we have food we have new

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manna and what a better I mean I cannot

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say enough about new manna food storage

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because and I really mean this you never

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know when an emergency is about to

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happen right and yesterday things are

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cool you wake up this morning and it's

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Armageddon right the smoke that ash the

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fires the flames evacuation planes over

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a you know things water drop that it was

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off the hook out of control the smell

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you couldn't breathe and so anyway

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I'm going down the checklist food new

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manna yes I'm so happy about that

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batteries flashlights water yes check

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check check check animals are ready

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ready car ready are we good to go right

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and so after we got all of that stuff

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out of the way then I went got back a

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backup of a PCS big big ones

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for the studio for the bunker got those

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and and rewired so now all of that and

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we just kind of kicked back there okay

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now we need to ride this out and see

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what those fires going to do and and so

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it kind of avoided going south it was

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just basically going less I'm talking

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about the fire

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so it went past us and and it's sitting

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there now still not contained but it's

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staying in back of the the mountains

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somewhat it's come down into the valley

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into the golf course so anyway so

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there's that meanwhile throughout the

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day today Santa Clarita that fire bursts

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it up and that is not that far from here

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and that's going on that's that Magic

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Mountain right up the freeway right up

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to five and and that took off and got

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out of control that is again five

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percent contained so we've got that you

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know the spot fires throughout the

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valley Porter Ranch and and in different

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places San Bernardino they had their

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thing today and of course Ventura County

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the the news today the live video all

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day today is somebody's house burning to

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the ground one after another after

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another it wasn't one it wasn't - I have

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no idea but it's in the hundreds and

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hundreds right now we have no I entire

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neighborhoods are gone in Ventura right

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here where we live 30 houses burnt down

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today and there's no telling what's

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gonna happen overnight and what we're

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gonna see in the morning waking up this

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morning like we did you go to bed in one

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way and you wake up and your day is just

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flipped upside down like it was today

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and and again I have been running and so

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is Rita since about 7 o'clock and it's 7

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o'clock at night so no brakes or

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anything today just to get through and

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make sure that our families and those

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around us were safe so and then so this

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morning this is what kind of tipped

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things off so while this fight you know

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the news of the fire and the smoke

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overhead we posted all the pictures on

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Facebook and Twitter so you guys have

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seen that I shot some video today too I

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just decided not to post it but with all

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of that I'm out in front of my house and

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I

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we had trash cans that were blowing all

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over somebody and I look down and then

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there's shingles on the ground and I was

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like oh no not the roof and I walk out a

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good look a go across the street look

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back and our roof was fine and I look

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over at my neighbor's house and his roof

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is gone it's just like man you know it's

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it's like that so he's got a you know

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great guy to him and his family and he's

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got to come home from work and deal with

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that and it's gonna get worse before it

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gets better I mean they are talking

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about these winds going on to Thursday

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and beyond it's only Tuesday

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and these fires are all zero percent

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contained so yeah okay so that's that's

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where we are at now last night when the

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power went out in the bunker a couple of

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times it was certainly a sign of things

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to come

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we did not just bail on the show last

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night you know Oh something came

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unplugged it was a very very very

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serious weather situation that was going

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on here and it it was a warning it was

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an absolute warning it when you know

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when I say oh it's windy outside okay

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well I I hope that you understand now

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when when I'm talking about things like

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this yeah here are some pictures that

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mark Toronto that we posted a I'll go

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ahead and retweet these now but tell you

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there you go there it is

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that's that's what it looked like from

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the front of our house today as you can

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see it's just you know we're on the

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north side of Burbank and this is the

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southern flank of the fire and it was

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right there man right there

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oh man okay so that's what we've been

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dealing with the good news is we are

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safe that that's the most important

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thing I don't want anybody out there to

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think that we're just broadcasting

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tonight

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you know you know make sure that the

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show must go on and and and we're doing

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that now now everything is safe

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everything is cool if anything goes nuts

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and we got to evacuate we will and we'll

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shut this thing down and and and go and

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do what we have to do okay

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all right now thank goodness River moon

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coffee I'm serious

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River moon got us through today let me

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tell you hmm all right on a on a really

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good last week that's just some one of

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those moods and when it comes to Amazon

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I haven't I haven't really bitten the

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Amazon Apple and and dove into the

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addiction but I got to tell you

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something Amazon makes it will way too

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easy to order stuff and I found out last

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week so I'm just goofing around I was

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like espresso machines yeah click click

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click espresso machine delivered and now

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here in the bunker all I have to do is

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it's always hot it's always running and

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you just it's it's not even noise it's

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just press the button and you've got a

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spray you know well you got to clean the

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thing and tap it out but if I wanted to

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do 10 espressos in a row I could do it's

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just man do I love my River moon coffee

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espresso grind fade to black blend man

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get yourself in the we got a DeLonghi I

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think mmm so good so that's what I'm

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drinking right now big mug of espresso

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okay uh tonight's Linda Moulton Howe is

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here she is live and she'll be with us

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in a few short minutes I want to remind

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everybody a few things going on our next

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event will be the conscious life Expo

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through the 12th 2018 at the LAX Hilton

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straight over there

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click on the conscious life Expo banner

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where tickets info food lodging all of

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that information is there Friday night

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at the conscious life Expo I will be

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hosting the ancient aliens panel and

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Linda is on that panel every year and

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it's great this is I think this is the

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third year now that I've done this panel

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over there and this year we have Linda

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we have David Wilcock Corey Goode J

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Widener and William Henry all stars on

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ancient aliens and there you go so Linda

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will be here tonight and she will be at

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suppose if you did one a week yeah yeah

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let's get this show crackin Linda is

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gonna be here in just a second I do want

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to say happy birthday to today Little

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Richard

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Naomi says 766 episode by three hours

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two thousand two hundred ninety eight

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hours that is 95.7 five days yeah 24

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could you imagine that 24 hours a day

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for 90 96 days that's uh I think they

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deemed that illegal that's some kind of

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illegal torture that's like

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waterboarding forcing somebody dead

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listen to fade to black

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24 hours a day Little Richard today is

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85 on the state history OTD 1945 it went

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down because at 2:10 p.m. five US Navy

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Avenger torpedo bombers comprising

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flight 19 take off from Fort Lauderdale

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Naval Air Station in Florida on a

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routine three-hour training mission

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flight 19 never returned it was lost

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forever

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in the Bermuda Triangle thater fact some

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embedded Fader fact the world's most

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expensive phone number was auctioned in

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Qatar that phone number was six six six

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six six six six and it sold for 1.75

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million dollars in 2006 that my friends

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is a fader fact ah man think about that

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6 6 6 6 6 6 2 million dot

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Qatar 2 as well that's the crazy thing

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the previous record-holder before that

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was sold in Beijing that number was ate

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ate ate ate ate ate ate ate 270,000

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dollars I can kind of see that I can

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kind of ate ate ate ate ate ate ate ate

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ate ate alright 800 number I guess for

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your corporation easy enough to remember

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ate ate ate ate ate ate ate 80 88 88

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right whatever but six six

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six six six six six for almost two

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million dollars who's got that number

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and it's in Qatar

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you could probably dial that number what

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is you know what let's think about this

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for a second let's think about this

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what is Qatar's country code get the

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country code you can dial that phone

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number that means somebody will pick it

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up in Qatar should we do that I can

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this is fade to black I'm your old Jimmy

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dirt tonight Linda Moulton Howe is here

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we're gonna do a nice calm cool and

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collected 2017 wrap-up show we're gonna

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look forward to 2018 she's got all kind

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I don't know I don't want to know that

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six six six six person now we're gonna

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talk about the booms all around the

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world there's more to that story than

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just the noise we're gonna do all that

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and much more tonight Linda Moulton Howe

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tonight Linda Moulton Howe always loved

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it when she's on the show and and we

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always seem to you know do this at this

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time of year with Linda too as well and

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she's a graduate of Stanford University

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with a master's degree in communication

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she has devoted her documentary film

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television radio and writing and

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reporting career to productions

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concerning science medicine and the

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environment miss Howe has received local

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national and international awards

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including three regional Emmys at

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national Emmy nomination and a station

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Peabody Award she produces reports and

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edits earth files.com you need to start

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off your day every day over there at

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Earth files she has her own radio

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program with John Burroughs with us over

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on Katie RA she's on coast to coast am

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every single month with George Noory

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ancient aliens of course since its first

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season and and I love doing this so I

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need to take a deep breath she's

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traveled to Venezuela Peru Brazil

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England Norway France Switzerland the

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Netherlands Yugoslavia Turkey Ethiopia

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Kenya Egypt Australia Japan Canada

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Mexico the Yucatan and Puerto Rico for

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research and productions in addition to

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all of her research on earth files by

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the way she now has a new series on Gaia

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and it's called truth hunters and it's

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amazing you need to go and check that

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out and tonight we're gonna take a look

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at the events of 2017 her latest

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research and of course we'll take a look

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at 2018 I would love to welcome back to

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fade to black the one and only

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Linda Moulton Howe Linda good evening Oh

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Thank You Jimmy very much and my

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blessings to you and to everybody in the

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Los Angeles Ventura County area because

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I've been trying to keep track of what

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has been happening on this fire and

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tonight the mayor of Los Angeles even is

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concerned because in addition to what

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has been happening in Ventura where you

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are in Los Angeles they have at least

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500 firefighters it saw a fire go from

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four thousand acres to 11,000 in just a

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few hours and that the 50,000 acres

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where you are that has been covered 78

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square miles it grew from nothing to

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this blaze that has taken out 78 square

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miles in 19 hours yes

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this is like dry kindling that's

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exploding yes and actually it's the

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opposite we're not in Ventura were where

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the mayor has been all day we're at the

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the the photographs that I sent you were

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were at that 11,000 acre fire right here

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in Los Angeles yeah we're in Burbank and

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yeah and it now this is what this is

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what the audience doesn't know Linda

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that you and I at the crack of dawn this

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morning you know got on the phone to

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discuss the show tonight and I said

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Linda I need to tell you what's going on

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right and yeah and I I didn't know read

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and I slept through the night you know

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the power was going on and off and

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things were getting crazy but we woke up

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this morning to it's a war zone it's a

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war that's the only way I can describe

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it it is completely out of control

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we are safe that's that's the good news

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you know the morning is gonna bring what

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it brings but right now were okay okay

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so that's that's the main thing the

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family's safe the house is cool were in

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the bunker we have food we have water we

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have flashlights backup power and we

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have you

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and here we go so well thanks I'm glad

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to hear that because by this afternoon

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Governor Jerry Brown had declared a

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state of emergency in Ventura County and

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he had over a thousand firefighters

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battling at what's known now is the

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Thomas fire northwest of Los Angeles and

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Governor Brown said on television quote

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this fire is very dangerous and

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spreading rapidly and it is critical

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that residents stay ready to evacuate

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immediately if told to do so and already

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tonight at least 27,000 people have

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evacuated and this is this is the crazy

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thing Linda wrap wrap your mind around

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this you know your scientific mind

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everything is zero percent contained

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that's it there's no containment here

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right and it's what I met when I said

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it's like kindling and if you go back

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into this year of 2017 that in the what

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would have been July and August but

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there were I'm just getting my notes to

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make sure I give the temperatures right

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right there were days and days in July

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of near 100 degree Fahrenheit over and

814
00:44:16,190 --> 00:44:13,380
over and over that severely was drying

815
00:44:19,580 --> 00:44:16,200
out the Mountain West and then from

816
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:19,590
there it moved to the northwest and the

817
00:44:25,340 --> 00:44:22,410
Pacific Northwest and they had remembers

818
00:44:27,650 --> 00:44:25,350
those just unrelenting high also near

819
00:44:29,720 --> 00:44:27,660
100 degrees Fahrenheit temperatures

820
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:29,730
which was very unusual for the Pacific

821
00:44:35,390 --> 00:44:32,490
Northwest and then by the second week in

822
00:44:39,290 --> 00:44:35,400
October of 2017 in Sonoma County north

823
00:44:42,890 --> 00:44:39,300
of San Francisco 22 people died 200 were

824
00:44:45,770 --> 00:44:42,900
reported missing 3,000 homes plus were

825
00:44:49,300 --> 00:44:45,780
destroyed and Santa Rosa's wine country

826
00:44:53,990 --> 00:44:49,310
has now suffered 1.2 billion dollars in

827
00:44:57,650 --> 00:44:54,000
damages and now we can add the still

828
00:44:59,150 --> 00:44:57,660
unresolved evolving horror that is

829
00:45:01,700 --> 00:44:59,160
happening in Ventura and

830
00:45:03,890 --> 00:45:01,710
that fire in Los Angeles and when you

831
00:45:08,630 --> 00:45:03,900
say why why is this happening it is

832
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:08,640
because we are in a state of what is

833
00:45:13,940 --> 00:45:10,890
called global warming in the

834
00:45:16,310 --> 00:45:13,950
relationship to that and that there have

835
00:45:19,490 --> 00:45:16,320
been science reports just in the last

836
00:45:21,140 --> 00:45:19,500
couple of weeks one of them that in the

837
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:21,150
Proceedings of the National Academy of

838
00:45:25,670 --> 00:45:23,130
Sciences you can't get more credible

839
00:45:28,820 --> 00:45:25,680
than that with about global warming is

840
00:45:31,940 --> 00:45:28,830
already having an effect on wildfires in

841
00:45:35,570 --> 00:45:31,950
a lot of places and they expect that it

842
00:45:39,290 --> 00:45:35,580
will become worse and worse and that the

843
00:45:42,140 --> 00:45:39,300
there is a group that is at the

844
00:45:44,990 --> 00:45:42,150
University of Idaho and they have also

845
00:45:48,830 --> 00:45:45,000
been reporting and they said in the last

846
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:48,840
60 to 90 days that this is broken

847
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:52,410
records in terms of warrants we had in

848
00:45:59,270 --> 00:45:55,290
the Albuquerque Journal today on the

849
00:46:02,060 --> 00:45:59,280
front page it was November was the

850
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:02,070
warmest on record for Albuquerque New

851
00:46:07,190 --> 00:46:04,650
Mexico the warmest and this is what as

852
00:46:10,490 --> 00:46:07,200
you go through and if you do Google's on

853
00:46:13,610 --> 00:46:10,500
why are there wildfires what is

854
00:46:16,220 --> 00:46:13,620
happening it is science paper after

855
00:46:18,950 --> 00:46:16,230
science paper and commentary about

856
00:46:22,370 --> 00:46:18,960
excessive heat that we have been getting

857
00:46:26,990 --> 00:46:22,380
in longer periods and even if there was

858
00:46:30,890 --> 00:46:27,000
a lot of rain in 2016 which there was it

859
00:46:33,100 --> 00:46:30,900
gets dried out so quickly when you get

860
00:46:36,710 --> 00:46:33,110
sustained temperatures in the 90s

861
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:36,720
approaching a hundred and right now if

862
00:46:43,070 --> 00:46:40,050
we don't get a lot of rain coming out of

863
00:46:46,820 --> 00:46:43,080
this winter into the spring Jimmy I

864
00:46:49,010 --> 00:46:46,830
cannot imagine what the West Coast of

865
00:46:51,730 --> 00:46:49,020
the United States would be like as we

866
00:46:55,190 --> 00:46:51,740
get into summer and fall of 2018 and

867
00:46:58,940 --> 00:46:55,200
this is something that I think we have

868
00:47:02,270 --> 00:46:58,950
to just stand up and face that we have

869
00:47:04,940 --> 00:47:02,280
turned some kind of a corner in the

870
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:04,950
climate and what is going to continue to

871
00:47:11,810 --> 00:47:08,850
happen and that that means that humans

872
00:47:13,070 --> 00:47:11,820
and political systems everywhere up and

873
00:47:15,290 --> 00:47:13,080
down the west coast

874
00:47:19,330 --> 00:47:15,300
are now going to have to start thinking

875
00:47:22,700 --> 00:47:19,340
in terms of what to do to reduce the

876
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:22,710
ability for fire to start and spread

877
00:47:27,830 --> 00:47:25,530
where there's populations just like on

878
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:27,840
the East Coast and in Florida they're

879
00:47:32,300 --> 00:47:29,370
going to have to cope with the new

880
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:32,310
reality that they're going to continue

881
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:36,330
to be flooded and Miami is already being

882
00:47:41,900 --> 00:47:39,570
flooded for so many weeks out of each

883
00:47:43,850 --> 00:47:41,910
year so you've got two coasts with two

884
00:47:47,060 --> 00:47:43,860
different problems but it's all related

885
00:47:50,090 --> 00:47:47,070
to global warming isn't it amazing how

886
00:47:53,540 --> 00:47:50,100
do you remember in your journalistic

887
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:53,550
career do you ever remember weather

888
00:48:00,020 --> 00:47:56,130
dominating the headlines like it has

889
00:48:04,190 --> 00:48:00,030
over the last six months no and if you

890
00:48:07,130 --> 00:48:04,200
go to like the Atlanta Atlanta canned

891
00:48:08,990 --> 00:48:07,140
the New York Times and some of the heavy

892
00:48:12,710 --> 00:48:09,000
hitters in journalism they have been

893
00:48:14,810 --> 00:48:12,720
doing reports about why and what are the

894
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:14,820
worries and where are we headed and

895
00:48:21,050 --> 00:48:18,330
they're in the Proceedings of the

896
00:48:23,420 --> 00:48:21,060
National Academy of Sciences they are

897
00:48:28,820 --> 00:48:23,430
basically underscoring that we are

898
00:48:31,370 --> 00:48:28,830
dealing with a human cause increase in

899
00:48:35,090 --> 00:48:31,380
global warming and when people argue

900
00:48:37,610 --> 00:48:35,100
well up and down throughout the ages in

901
00:48:40,100 --> 00:48:37,620
the centuries the planet has been warm

902
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:40,110
the planet has been cold three or four

903
00:48:46,010 --> 00:48:43,290
times it's been an icy snowball but

904
00:48:50,060 --> 00:48:46,020
here's the point that is left out in

905
00:48:53,660 --> 00:48:50,070
those arguments there is no time in the

906
00:48:57,110 --> 00:48:53,670
record of this planet where we have gone

907
00:48:59,870 --> 00:48:57,120
up in temperature rise within one

908
00:49:02,270 --> 00:48:59,880
century at the rate and the rapidity and

909
00:49:04,250 --> 00:49:02,280
it's related at the same time the

910
00:49:06,410 --> 00:49:04,260
parallel track it's a it's the

911
00:49:09,140 --> 00:49:06,420
compression of time where all this is

912
00:49:13,310 --> 00:49:09,150
taking place and when you look at graphs

913
00:49:14,210 --> 00:49:13,320
in from the 20th century to the 21st

914
00:49:17,390 --> 00:49:14,220
century

915
00:49:20,780 --> 00:49:17,400
in a hundred years it's a spike Ameri

916
00:49:23,690 --> 00:49:20,790
these graphs at NOAA and NASA and other

917
00:49:24,710 --> 00:49:23,700
websites that will show you how it

918
00:49:26,779 --> 00:49:24,720
spikes up

919
00:49:29,900 --> 00:49:26,789
it's the rapidity we're doing

920
00:49:33,799 --> 00:49:29,910
this to ourselves in a very compressed

921
00:49:36,559 --> 00:49:33,809
moment in time in the earth and that is

922
00:49:39,309 --> 00:49:36,569
why it is crucial that we try to do

923
00:49:43,939 --> 00:49:39,319
something to address co2 and methane

924
00:49:46,459 --> 00:49:43,949
emissions is it is it too late you know

925
00:49:49,939 --> 00:49:46,469
have we gone too far with Mother Nature

926
00:49:52,519 --> 00:49:49,949
now you know pushing this that maybe we

927
00:49:58,939 --> 00:49:52,529
can't even reverse things what do you

928
00:50:01,279 --> 00:49:58,949
think well I had Kevin Trenberth from

929
00:50:05,089 --> 00:50:01,289
NCAR the National Center for Atmospheric

930
00:50:08,959 --> 00:50:05,099
Research up in Boulder on earth files

931
00:50:10,729 --> 00:50:08,969
and coast-to-coast just it was starting

932
00:50:14,479 --> 00:50:10,739
at the period of time when there were

933
00:50:16,969 --> 00:50:14,489
the fires that were starting to spread

934
00:50:20,179 --> 00:50:16,979
from Montana and Canada which by the way

935
00:50:22,669 --> 00:50:20,189
Canada had the worst fire season in

936
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:22,679
British Columbia ever ever on record

937
00:50:27,620 --> 00:50:25,650
this year and so I went to Kevin

938
00:50:30,189 --> 00:50:27,630
Trenberth and I interviewed before and

939
00:50:32,269 --> 00:50:30,199
he's one of the single most respected

940
00:50:35,539 --> 00:50:32,279
atmospheric physicists in the world

941
00:50:38,989 --> 00:50:35,549
quite literally a wonderful wonderful

942
00:50:42,949 --> 00:50:38,999
scientist and I asked him exactly that

943
00:50:50,029 --> 00:50:42,959
question and you hear he's very measured

944
00:50:53,179 --> 00:50:50,039
he's very wise he's he tries to make

945
00:50:56,089 --> 00:50:53,189
every word count in terms that he it has

946
00:50:58,749 --> 00:50:56,099
data to back up what he says but when I

947
00:51:03,469 --> 00:50:58,759
ask him that question is it too late

948
00:51:05,949 --> 00:51:03,479
there was a pause I'm what you then hear

949
00:51:10,009 --> 00:51:05,959
from him and from other scientists is

950
00:51:13,130 --> 00:51:10,019
they don't want to concede that we can't

951
00:51:16,999 --> 00:51:13,140
do something about it but they always

952
00:51:21,979 --> 00:51:17,009
say that we for the rest of this century

953
00:51:24,679 --> 00:51:21,989
it is going to be constant change that

954
00:51:28,189 --> 00:51:24,689
is going to be impacted by increasing

955
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:28,199
global climate warming and that means

956
00:51:35,779 --> 00:51:32,130
that in a way the answer is we can't

957
00:51:40,430 --> 00:51:35,789
stop it at this point unless we did a

958
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:40,440
huge I'm going to say we put a huge stop

959
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:42,450
on co2 and methane I don't know how

960
00:51:48,710 --> 00:51:46,170
humans would ever do that but we have to

961
00:51:51,319 --> 00:51:48,720
start trying to take it really seriously

962
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:51,329
globally and at least make an effort so

963
00:51:57,710 --> 00:51:54,210
that it isn't going to continue to spike

964
00:52:00,349 --> 00:51:57,720
and get a thicker what's called the

965
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:00,359
blanket of co2 and methane if the

966
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:02,970
blanket gets thicker and thicker because

967
00:52:09,470 --> 00:52:05,930
we're not trying to restrict then the

968
00:52:11,779 --> 00:52:09,480
rate of warming where we live on the

969
00:52:14,390 --> 00:52:11,789
surface of the planet it accelerates

970
00:52:18,259 --> 00:52:14,400
it's really just kind of a function of

971
00:52:21,380 --> 00:52:18,269
physics and math and it's happening and

972
00:52:23,779 --> 00:52:21,390
so the scientists would like to

973
00:52:27,499 --> 00:52:23,789
encourage everybody to feel like that we

974
00:52:31,130 --> 00:52:27,509
have still options and that instead of

975
00:52:33,410 --> 00:52:31,140
getting out of climate agreements with

976
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:33,420
the world that we should be trying to

977
00:52:40,910 --> 00:52:37,410
lead how are we going to get a handle on

978
00:52:43,910 --> 00:52:40,920
having a progressive and exciting future

979
00:52:47,539 --> 00:52:43,920
to the end of this century while still

980
00:52:50,359 --> 00:52:47,549
being I guess I want to say saviors of

981
00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:50,369
our own selves in our own planet by

982
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:53,609
taking this seriously and trying to come

983
00:52:59,589 --> 00:52:55,650
up with ways that we could cut back co2

984
00:53:02,480 --> 00:52:59,599
and nothing and right now from

985
00:53:06,319 --> 00:53:02,490
everything that I read the people that I

986
00:53:09,470 --> 00:53:06,329
do interviews with it's more and more

987
00:53:11,990 --> 00:53:09,480
frustration because there are some

988
00:53:14,930 --> 00:53:12,000
political groups in other parts of the

989
00:53:17,599 --> 00:53:14,940
world that are really trying hard and

990
00:53:21,650 --> 00:53:17,609
then there are other large countries and

991
00:53:25,759 --> 00:53:21,660
this one's included now that are not on

992
00:53:28,849 --> 00:53:25,769
they will say the same square of trying

993
00:53:32,420 --> 00:53:28,859
to get collaboration country to country

994
00:53:35,269 --> 00:53:32,430
to take this seriously and come up with

995
00:53:37,670 --> 00:53:35,279
increasing numbers of ways that we can

996
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:37,680
stop contributing so much the atmosphere

997
00:53:46,190 --> 00:53:41,130
and there is both the question and in a

998
00:53:49,339 --> 00:53:46,200
way a kind of mystery are we humans for

999
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:49,349
the rest of the 21st century are we

1000
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:54,090
going to be with kind of blinders

1001
00:53:59,390 --> 00:53:56,970
because we don't want the hard facts to

1002
00:54:01,250 --> 00:53:59,400
be real are we going to go forward to

1003
00:54:06,710 --> 00:54:01,260
the rest of this century in a kind of

1004
00:54:09,110 --> 00:54:06,720
denial where everybody says well the

1005
00:54:11,330 --> 00:54:09,120
United States had a period of time where

1006
00:54:13,460 --> 00:54:11,340
they burn coal and it's their

1007
00:54:16,910 --> 00:54:13,470
responsibility and now we need to burn

1008
00:54:20,540 --> 00:54:16,920
coal we can't do that anymore

1009
00:54:23,240 --> 00:54:20,550
it can't be the provincial tribal

1010
00:54:25,940 --> 00:54:23,250
approach to what we're doing with energy

1011
00:54:31,390 --> 00:54:25,950
and contributing to the atmosphere we've

1012
00:54:34,940 --> 00:54:31,400
got to turn into a planet sort of of one

1013
00:54:37,100 --> 00:54:34,950
species that understand some of the

1014
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:37,110
physics and the consequences of what we

1015
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:41,690
do as a 7.2 billion and expanding

1016
00:54:48,410 --> 00:54:43,170
civilization

1017
00:54:50,870 --> 00:54:48,420
instead of tribal warfare and if looking

1018
00:54:53,540 --> 00:54:50,880
over at a neighbor and saying you got to

1019
00:54:56,540 --> 00:54:53,550
burn coal so I want to burn coal we have

1020
00:54:58,580 --> 00:54:56,550
to get past that in order to survive and

1021
00:55:01,250 --> 00:54:58,590
that I think in the answer to your

1022
00:55:04,700 --> 00:55:01,260
question and it's what Kevin Trenberth

1023
00:55:10,850 --> 00:55:04,710
tried to deal with the complexities of

1024
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:10,860
this that we are past the point of being

1025
00:55:16,580 --> 00:55:14,010
on a planet where we could live as they

1026
00:55:19,070 --> 00:55:16,590
did a hundred years ago without worrying

1027
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:19,080
about consequences that is the big

1028
00:55:25,460 --> 00:55:22,650
change the consequences are now being

1029
00:55:29,030 --> 00:55:25,470
rubbed in our face by what is happening

1030
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:29,040
with wildfires and desertification and

1031
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:31,530
flooding in Miami that's going to get

1032
00:55:39,770 --> 00:55:36,570
worse and the problems of the migrations

1033
00:55:42,620 --> 00:55:39,780
of humans in Bangladesh and other parts

1034
00:55:46,010 --> 00:55:42,630
of this world now that don't have food

1035
00:55:49,550 --> 00:55:46,020
and are having to move in the hundreds

1036
00:55:51,770 --> 00:55:49,560
of thousands that is a reality that

1037
00:55:55,700 --> 00:55:51,780
wasn't here a hundred years ago as well

1038
00:55:58,130 --> 00:55:55,710
I and then I have this weird thought go

1039
00:56:00,800 --> 00:55:58,140
with me on this for a second one skull

1040
00:56:05,420 --> 00:56:00,810
with me I had this weird thought there's

1041
00:56:07,550 --> 00:56:05,430
part of me that wants to see Antarctica

1042
00:56:08,030 --> 00:56:07,560
melt so we can see what's underneath it

1043
00:56:11,630 --> 00:56:08,040
right

1044
00:56:14,870 --> 00:56:11,640
they can't hide it you know what I mean

1045
00:56:19,220 --> 00:56:14,880
there's thirds there but we can't have

1046
00:56:20,660 --> 00:56:19,230
both obviously but that they are hiding

1047
00:56:24,230 --> 00:56:20,670
something down there

1048
00:56:27,140 --> 00:56:24,240
and I think that they are really frantic

1049
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:27,150
right now with the melting that is going

1050
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:29,370
on not only napped Arctica but Greenland

1051
00:56:34,940 --> 00:56:32,370
and I read what was it was it in Chile

1052
00:56:37,820 --> 00:56:34,950
the the part of this place you're just

1053
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:37,830
just cracked and fell off and I'm like

1054
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:41,370
okay we're closer to them not being able

1055
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:43,770
to hide anything from us but we're

1056
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:46,650
getting it at a cost you know what I

1057
00:56:51,380 --> 00:56:47,490
mean yeah

1058
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:51,390
oh yeah because we had that big Ross

1059
00:56:57,980 --> 00:56:54,450
glacier came off this summer that big

1060
00:57:02,510 --> 00:56:57,990
break right and behind it even though

1061
00:57:04,940 --> 00:57:02,520
this Delaware sized chunk of ice which

1062
00:57:09,470 --> 00:57:04,950
is apparently also melting faster than

1063
00:57:12,590 --> 00:57:09,480
they thought behind it it was we'll call

1064
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:12,600
it floating on the water the way you

1065
00:57:17,870 --> 00:57:15,090
would have an ice cube in a glass and

1066
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:17,880
your water in your glass doesn't

1067
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:20,490
overflow because the water and the ice

1068
00:57:27,170 --> 00:57:24,330
cube have a physics trade-off in that

1069
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:27,180
volume that's inside of that glass but

1070
00:57:33,260 --> 00:57:30,690
if you take that analogy and you say

1071
00:57:37,130 --> 00:57:33,270
that behind where the Ross glacier fell

1072
00:57:42,470 --> 00:57:37,140
there is a huge volume of ice that is on

1073
00:57:45,530 --> 00:57:42,480
a land it is all of that ice that is now

1074
00:57:48,860 --> 00:57:45,540
the pressure holding it back has been

1075
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:48,870
released somewhat by the collapse of

1076
00:57:55,190 --> 00:57:52,050
this big chunk of ice into the ocean and

1077
00:57:58,160 --> 00:57:55,200
that means that ice that is on the land

1078
00:58:01,280 --> 00:57:58,170
in Antarctica is going to be freer to

1079
00:58:04,430 --> 00:58:01,290
move forward into the ocean that's when

1080
00:58:07,580 --> 00:58:04,440
we start accelerating sea level rise and

1081
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the fact that the melt seems to be going

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more rapidly than they expected I need

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to be also addressed in this way you

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will hear other people who will argue oh

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well but there have been ice buildup in

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Antarctica and there areas where

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they've had thicker ice it's all part of

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the same computer programs have been

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analyzing what would happen if we had X

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percentage degrees increase in

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Fahrenheit over a small period of time

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you will get these big swings in the

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dynamics of wind and moisture in the air

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00:58:47,050 --> 00:58:44,060
and that's why we can be in global

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warming and a section of Antarctica

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might have a buildup in ice but places

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like where the big right rough chunk

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00:59:01,210 --> 00:58:58,520
fell off will be where it is melting

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faster and it's these contradictions

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that I think that the public in general

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00:59:09,730 --> 00:59:06,260
has a hard time accommodating because

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you will hear these what seem opposites

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00:59:14,290 --> 00:59:12,470
but it's absolutely part of the computer

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00:59:17,620 --> 00:59:14,300
modeling of what happens when the

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atmosphere is warming and we are getting

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accelerated melt and the Arctic we are

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00:59:28,329 --> 00:59:24,530
at a point where the Arctic has melted

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so much and continues each year to have

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as much or more melt than the year

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before and I already there have been

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00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:36,290
some headlines about Russia and some

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other countries that are looking to

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doing permanent trade areas in the

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Arctic and so we're getting into

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00:59:48,370 --> 00:59:45,460
geopolitical potential of geopolitical

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00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:48,380
territorial conflicts just about things

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00:59:54,310 --> 00:59:51,770
like sea lanes where places like art the

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00:59:57,579 --> 00:59:54,320
Arctic are opening up as they've never

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01:00:00,160 --> 00:59:57,589
never been in human history this is the

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reality that we're in nothing is going

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01:00:04,990 --> 01:00:02,089
to go back like they say you can't go

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01:00:08,470 --> 01:00:05,000
home again we're on a planet now that is

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01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:08,480
making a big change and it isn't going

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01:00:14,380 --> 01:00:10,730
to be like it was a hundred years ago

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01:00:16,930 --> 01:00:14,390
for maybe never but at least for a very

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01:00:18,130 --> 01:00:16,940
long time do you think we're going to

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01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:18,140
head towards a break here in four

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01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:20,330
minutes Linda but do you think that all

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of this has something to do while

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01:00:26,620 --> 01:00:24,980
everything is connected when it comes to

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01:00:29,980 --> 01:00:26,630
mother nature and planet Earth for sure

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01:00:32,170 --> 01:00:29,990
but the the migrations of the monarch

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01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:32,180
butterflies and the bees and the bee

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01:00:39,670 --> 01:00:35,210
population which are critic

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01:00:41,860 --> 01:00:39,680
two of our seasons and our growth in our

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01:00:44,590 --> 01:00:41,870
plants and fruits and vegetable and

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01:00:46,390 --> 01:00:44,600
everything else it's all connected do

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01:00:52,210 --> 01:00:46,400
you think that that has anything to do

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01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:52,220
with global warming well the problems

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01:00:58,030 --> 01:00:54,290
with the migration of the butterflies

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01:01:02,610 --> 01:00:58,040
there's two or three pronged the overuse

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01:01:06,850 --> 01:01:02,620
of insecticides in the United States

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01:01:09,870 --> 01:01:06,860
combined with changes in temperatures

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01:01:12,310 --> 01:01:09,880
that come at the wrong times are are

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01:01:14,110 --> 01:01:12,320
incompatible with what have been the

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01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:14,120
centuries long migration of those

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01:01:19,690 --> 01:01:16,610
beautiful butterflies if they get caught

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01:01:22,780 --> 01:01:19,700
where it's warm and then it goes cold

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01:01:27,100 --> 01:01:22,790
suddenly which has been the dynamics are

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01:01:32,170 --> 01:01:27,110
swinging more than they go from cold to

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01:01:34,750 --> 01:01:32,180
hot and these kinds of swings and

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01:01:36,430 --> 01:01:34,760
dynamics can end up trapping something

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01:01:37,990 --> 01:01:36,440
like hundreds of thousands of

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01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:38,000
butterflies trying to get from the

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01:01:44,050 --> 01:01:40,970
United States down south and the

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01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:44,060
pesticides would they need to eat

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01:01:49,870 --> 01:01:47,810
milkweed and in many places milkweed is

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01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:49,880
decimated and that means that there is

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01:01:56,350 --> 01:01:53,450
no food for the butterflies and that

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01:01:59,140 --> 01:01:56,360
goes to pesticides that we have several

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01:02:01,570 --> 01:01:59,150
problems now one of the things that's

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01:02:04,780 --> 01:02:01,580
been very interesting to me as I started

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01:02:06,070 --> 01:02:04,790
getting a lot of emails probably at

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01:02:09,310 --> 01:02:06,080
least a year ago

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01:02:11,650 --> 01:02:09,320
but the theme kept coming it was

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01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:11,660
persistent and the number of emails have

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01:02:16,930 --> 01:02:13,730
increased where people have been writing

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01:02:19,870 --> 01:02:16,940
to me from everywhere Europe and Middle

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01:02:22,890 --> 01:02:19,880
Eastern Europe and Canada the United

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01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:22,900
States Mexico a lot of places saying I

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01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:26,570
can't see insects like I used to I used

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01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:29,090
to drive in a car and my windshield

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01:02:33,100 --> 01:02:30,890
would be covered with insects well

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01:02:35,620 --> 01:02:33,110
there's a German science group and they

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01:02:39,700 --> 01:02:35,630
have been in fact investigating and

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01:02:41,470 --> 01:02:39,710
finding that the numbers of insects in

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01:02:44,670 --> 01:02:41,480
Europe where they have been doing

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01:02:48,380 --> 01:02:44,680
studies in some places are down Jimmy

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01:02:51,650 --> 01:02:48,390
86% Wow okay

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01:02:55,730 --> 01:02:51,660
now what would happen literally what

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01:02:59,150 --> 01:02:55,740
would happen if we lost the valuable

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01:03:03,769 --> 01:02:59,160
insects that are the food for birds and

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01:03:06,289 --> 01:03:03,779
they are the containment on so many

1184
01:03:09,529 --> 01:03:06,299
other kinds of scourges in the

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01:03:11,029 --> 01:03:09,539
environment we need insects what happens

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01:03:13,339 --> 01:03:11,039
if they disappear well there was a

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01:03:15,589 --> 01:03:13,349
scientist in Germany he was asked

1188
01:03:18,319 --> 01:03:15,599
exactly that question by one of the news

1189
01:03:22,069 --> 01:03:18,329
media there and he said with

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01:03:25,539 --> 01:03:22,079
tongue-in-cheek I would suspect that the

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01:03:28,700 --> 01:03:25,549
vertebrates will go extinct before the

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01:03:31,670 --> 01:03:28,710
insects well that's you me and

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01:03:34,519 --> 01:03:31,680
everything that has skeletal bones and

1194
01:03:37,359 --> 01:03:34,529
it was like he was making a wry joke

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01:03:40,789 --> 01:03:37,369
yeah the insects are on their way out

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01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:40,799
and the numbers compared to what might

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01:03:46,849 --> 01:03:43,890
happen to humans and mammals and

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01:03:49,460 --> 01:03:46,859
everything that's vertebrate they we

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01:03:53,390 --> 01:03:49,470
might end up being extinct before the

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01:03:55,999 --> 01:03:53,400
insects now what we're going to have to

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01:03:59,359 --> 01:03:56,009
start monitoring I think more carefully

1202
01:04:01,220 --> 01:03:59,369
is as we get into 2018 I think there are

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01:04:05,029 --> 01:04:01,230
scientists preparing those kinds of

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01:04:07,249 --> 01:04:05,039
investigations are there regions in the

1205
01:04:11,809 --> 01:04:07,259
United States now where there really are

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01:04:14,690 --> 01:04:11,819
not insects and what does that mean if

1207
01:04:17,029 --> 01:04:14,700
it keeps expanding I think that is one

1208
01:04:20,230 --> 01:04:17,039
of the environmental mysteries now and

1209
01:04:23,420 --> 01:04:20,240
it's related to changing climate and

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01:04:26,779 --> 01:04:23,430
pesticides again because we know it it

1211
01:04:32,210 --> 01:04:26,789
is the nicotine based pesticides that

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01:04:34,970 --> 01:04:32,220
had been doing in the bees from 2006 7

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01:04:38,660 --> 01:04:34,980
when the first terms of colony collapse

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01:04:42,289 --> 01:04:38,670
disorder occurred and I did an interview

1215
01:04:43,789 --> 01:04:42,299
with Dave Hackenberg in Pennsylvania he

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01:04:46,700 --> 01:04:43,799
was the guy who went to the University

1217
01:04:50,329 --> 01:04:46,710
of Pennsylvania and said I just lost 80%

1218
01:04:53,420 --> 01:04:50,339
of my honeybees please find out what is

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01:04:56,859 --> 01:04:53,430
wrong and it began there and when I did

1220
01:04:59,329 --> 01:04:56,869
an interview with him that February of

1221
01:05:01,130 --> 01:04:59,339
2007 after he had done that report the

1222
01:05:01,590 --> 01:05:01,140
University of Pennsylvania he told me

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01:05:04,130 --> 01:05:01,600
and that

1224
01:05:07,470 --> 01:05:04,140
interview that he and other honeybee

1225
01:05:09,690 --> 01:05:07,480
growers in Pennsylvania talking among

1226
01:05:13,500 --> 01:05:09,700
themselves they were all saying the same

1227
01:05:16,230 --> 01:05:13,510
thing we think it is the then-new

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01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:16,240
nicotine based pesticides that are

1229
01:05:23,550 --> 01:05:19,930
killing our bees and now in 2017 there

1230
01:05:26,370 --> 01:05:23,560
have been so many tests that finger the

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01:05:28,770 --> 01:05:26,380
nicotine based pesticides as being a

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01:05:31,470 --> 01:05:28,780
huge killer down to a sensitivity

1233
01:05:33,750 --> 01:05:31,480
meaning you could reduce the nicotine

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01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:33,760
based pesticide down to something at a

1235
01:05:38,730 --> 01:05:36,370
molecular levels and it's still going to

1236
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:38,740
have an impact on honeybees they're that

1237
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:42,970
sensitive and Italy France parts of

1238
01:05:49,460 --> 01:05:45,730
Europe they are banning but in the

1239
01:05:52,140 --> 01:05:49,470
United States Monsanto and others are

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01:05:55,470 --> 01:05:52,150
persisting with nicotine based

1241
01:05:58,170 --> 01:05:55,480
pesticides that we know how are

1242
01:06:02,910 --> 01:05:58,180
devastating to honeybees and pollinators

1243
01:06:05,250 --> 01:06:02,920
and yeah I know I have to take a break

1244
01:06:07,890 --> 01:06:05,260
right here so let's do that we'll pick

1245
01:06:11,550 --> 01:06:07,900
up right here room when we come back but

1246
01:06:14,790 --> 01:06:11,560
also we've got to jump in your reporting

1247
01:06:17,550 --> 01:06:14,800
and research on these blooms we've got

1248
01:06:18,930 --> 01:06:17,560
to go feet first into this and let's do

1249
01:06:22,470 --> 01:06:18,940
that when we come back our guest tonight

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01:06:27,090 --> 01:06:22,480
Linda Moulton Howe we're doing a 2017

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01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:27,100
wrap-up and I look forward to 2018 this

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01:06:29,350 --> 01:06:28,330
is fade to black I'm your host Jimmy

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01:06:45,299 --> 01:06:29,360
church we'll be right back

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this is fade to black

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the and you and I I remember a couple of

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years ago you and I oh you know what I

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wanted to mention before I move forward

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we're going to be at the conscious life

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Expo together again this year and and we

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will be you're going to be on you know

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the panel ancient aliens panel on on

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Friday night that's going to be great

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but no Jim Marrs this year and so this

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is yeah and god bless him but I really

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01:11:25,620 --> 01:11:21,670
think he's out there and another

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dimension so interactive so we're gonna

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do a tribute to Jim Marrs at the ancient

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aliens panel and I was thinking about

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something today about that and do you

1346
01:11:40,980 --> 01:11:38,410
remember this is for the audience to

1347
01:11:44,460 --> 01:11:40,990
enjoy I think it was probably four years

1348
01:11:48,210 --> 01:11:44,470
ago I'm not sure where we were at but

1349
01:11:51,990 --> 01:11:48,220
you Jim and I were it was at night and

1350
01:11:53,910 --> 01:11:52,000
we were standing under a tree and we

1351
01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:53,920
were three of us were talking I think

1352
01:11:59,850 --> 01:11:57,610
Don Schmidt was there too and we were we

1353
01:12:02,010 --> 01:11:59,860
were talking and this is what is funny

1354
01:12:04,470 --> 01:12:02,020
the audience is probably imagining you

1355
01:12:07,530 --> 01:12:04,480
Mars myself and Schmidt standing there

1356
01:12:10,140 --> 01:12:07,540
talking about UFOs we were talking about

1357
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:10,150
our family we were talking about health

1358
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:12,010
do you remember that we were just

1359
01:12:16,290 --> 01:12:13,690
talking about what I think it we were

1360
01:12:18,450 --> 01:12:16,300
done in Roswell yeah well they were some

1361
01:12:22,140 --> 01:12:18,460
was under a tree that's all I remember

1362
01:12:24,660 --> 01:12:22,150
and and and and what a great moment that

1363
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:24,670
was and and we were all together there

1364
01:12:30,300 --> 01:12:28,090
and I just missed that guy and I look

1365
01:12:31,050 --> 01:12:30,310
forward to to our time together

1366
01:12:34,890 --> 01:12:31,060
conscious

1367
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:34,900
or we could do a very fitting tribute to

1368
01:12:43,950 --> 01:12:38,410
Jim Marrs yeah one of the funniest best

1369
01:12:45,330 --> 01:12:43,960
people ever and from 1989 until he went

1370
01:12:50,820 --> 01:12:45,340
to another dimension

1371
01:12:54,510 --> 01:12:50,830
this year he and I if we were colleagues

1372
01:12:56,610 --> 01:12:54,520
in content he would call me up with

1373
01:13:00,660 --> 01:12:56,620
you've got to call this phone number

1374
01:13:04,860 --> 01:13:00,670
right now and the most he would say is

1375
01:13:07,860 --> 01:13:04,870
and this is going to be a woman in Texas

1376
01:13:10,470 --> 01:13:07,870
and Linda honest to god she has seen her

1377
01:13:13,830 --> 01:13:10,480
best friend transfer from a human into a

1378
01:13:15,450 --> 01:13:13,840
reptile and that was quite literal of

1379
01:13:18,780 --> 01:13:15,460
something that happened a few years ago

1380
01:13:21,420 --> 01:13:18,790
and and we knew each other well enough

1381
01:13:24,540 --> 01:13:21,430
and we did so many interviews with

1382
01:13:26,460 --> 01:13:24,550
people and exchange material but that he

1383
01:13:28,620 --> 01:13:26,470
could do that Linda you have to call

1384
01:13:31,290 --> 01:13:28,630
this number right now and this is who

1385
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:31,300
you're going to be talking to and so it

1386
01:13:38,450 --> 01:13:34,810
was fun as well as very serious because

1387
01:13:43,290 --> 01:13:38,460
I really do think get Jim in crossfire

1388
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:43,300
did the first real penetrating I'm going

1389
01:13:48,900 --> 01:13:47,650
to use the word bigger truth about what

1390
01:13:51,330 --> 01:13:48,910
had happened around the JFK

1391
01:13:56,250 --> 01:13:51,340
assassination than anybody had done to

1392
01:14:00,690 --> 01:13:56,260
that point because Jim like myself what

1393
01:14:04,650 --> 01:14:00,700
we honored and honor is the pressure of

1394
01:14:08,970 --> 01:14:04,660
fact in a political system that seems to

1395
01:14:12,030 --> 01:14:08,980
always want to hide the facts and that's

1396
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:12,040
where Jim and I really were on the same

1397
01:14:18,750 --> 01:14:15,730
page and it was really fun to work on

1398
01:14:21,510 --> 01:14:18,760
various subjects with him I remember he

1399
01:14:24,810 --> 01:14:21,520
told me a story one time about the two

1400
01:14:28,500 --> 01:14:24,820
of you driving around like Colorado and

1401
01:14:30,660 --> 01:14:28,510
New Mexico in a pickup truck chasing

1402
01:14:35,550 --> 01:14:30,670
cattle mutilations do you remember doing

1403
01:14:38,510 --> 01:14:35,560
that with Jim well I think I know that

1404
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:38,520
John Lear and I traveled in a pickup

1405
01:14:44,370 --> 01:14:43,570
truck with some people from I think we

1406
01:14:45,870 --> 01:14:44,380
were started

1407
01:14:48,180 --> 01:14:45,880
out in Denver I think it had been a

1408
01:14:50,190 --> 01:14:48,190
conference and we went to Albuquerque

1409
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:50,200
and then we went further south to

1410
01:14:55,500 --> 01:14:52,570
Roswell I know I did that with Lehrer

1411
01:14:57,180 --> 01:14:55,510
and I talked with Jim about that whole

1412
01:15:00,480 --> 01:14:57,190
trip and who were who we were

1413
01:15:03,300 --> 01:15:00,490
interviewing so I don't I don't recall

1414
01:15:05,820 --> 01:15:03,310
Jim himself being on that trip but I

1415
01:15:08,490 --> 01:15:05,830
remember telling him about this amazing

1416
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:08,500
trip with Lear and being able to meet

1417
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:11,890
Ernie Edwards and go talk with Clifford

1418
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:14,770
stone and meeting some other people

1419
01:15:21,980 --> 01:15:17,650
along the way and going to the location

1420
01:15:25,250 --> 01:15:21,990
where Paul bennewitz had been with his

1421
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:25,260
cameras and recording equipment

1422
01:15:31,770 --> 01:15:29,050
apparently he stumbled into some kind of

1423
01:15:35,100 --> 01:15:31,780
UFO interaction with Kirtland Air Force

1424
01:15:39,750 --> 01:15:35,110
Base out west of where I live in

1425
01:15:43,860 --> 01:15:39,760
Albuquerque and that Paul bennewitz was

1426
01:15:46,970 --> 01:15:43,870
the sort of like the trigger point for a

1427
01:15:49,620 --> 01:15:46,980
somebody in the civilian world to get

1428
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:49,630
involved with Kirtland Air Force Base

1429
01:15:55,230 --> 01:15:52,410
thinking that he was doing a good deed

1430
01:15:58,080 --> 01:15:55,240
going to Kirtland Air Force Base and

1431
01:16:00,890 --> 01:15:58,090
saying their UFOs and this is what I'm

1432
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:00,900
monitoring and the terrible history is

1433
01:16:07,890 --> 01:16:05,650
that he was hurt apparently was

1434
01:16:11,670 --> 01:16:07,900
microwaves I remember talking with J

1435
01:16:14,850 --> 01:16:11,680
Allen Hynek about this Hynek went to see

1436
01:16:18,630 --> 01:16:14,860
bennewitz and I had been there and had

1437
01:16:21,780 --> 01:16:18,640
seen red straight marks on Paul

1438
01:16:24,420 --> 01:16:21,790
bennewitz his hands arms on his wife and

1439
01:16:25,980 --> 01:16:24,430
he was explaining that he was convinced

1440
01:16:29,310 --> 01:16:25,990
that the government was focusing

1441
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:29,320
microwaves on his laboratory and where

1442
01:16:34,860 --> 01:16:32,050
he lived trying to hurt him and his wife

1443
01:16:38,100 --> 01:16:34,870
and people who were there and that was

1444
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:38,110
the moment where part of the world

1445
01:16:43,110 --> 01:16:39,730
branched off and said well Paul

1446
01:16:44,670 --> 01:16:43,120
bennewitz is has gone insane and that's

1447
01:16:46,380 --> 01:16:44,680
what the government wanted that's

1448
01:16:49,470 --> 01:16:46,390
exactly what they wanted but the truth

1449
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:49,480
was they were very sane and they were

1450
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:53,050
being targeted and when Hynek went to

1451
01:16:57,660 --> 01:16:56,410
see Paul bennewitz Paul had been

1452
01:17:00,810 --> 01:16:57,670
hospitalized

1453
01:17:02,220 --> 01:17:00,820
and Hynek came up to Denver to see me

1454
01:17:05,340 --> 01:17:02,230
with a good friend of his Richard

1455
01:17:08,100 --> 01:17:05,350
Sigismund and we went to dinner and I

1456
01:17:11,910 --> 01:17:08,110
remember it was the first weekend in

1457
01:17:15,810 --> 01:17:11,920
August of 1985 because the next day I

1458
01:17:18,420 --> 01:17:15,820
was leaving for Addis Ababa Ethiopia to

1459
01:17:21,030 --> 01:17:18,430
produce a documentary for UNICEF on

1460
01:17:25,140 --> 01:17:21,040
child survival there and that that night

1461
01:17:28,140 --> 01:17:25,150
is a demarcation that Hynek in August

1462
01:17:33,420 --> 01:17:28,150
that first week in August 1985 did not

1463
01:17:34,140 --> 01:17:33,430
know that he would be dead by April none

1464
01:17:37,620 --> 01:17:34,150
of us did

1465
01:17:39,630 --> 01:17:37,630
and it was the he had had prostate

1466
01:17:40,790 --> 01:17:39,640
cancer and apparently something had

1467
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:40,800
spread to his brain

1468
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:45,010
but what makes this whole story this

1469
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:47,410
much more melancholy is that his friend

1470
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:49,810
Richard Sigismund and I and Alan did not

1471
01:17:55,650 --> 01:17:52,330
know what his fate was a few months

1472
01:17:58,770 --> 01:17:55,660
later but in that discussion in August

1473
01:18:01,980 --> 01:17:58,780
of 1985 he was talking about what he had

1474
01:18:04,470 --> 01:18:01,990
seen with bennewitz and his wife and he

1475
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:04,480
was convinced that they had suffered

1476
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:06,850
physical harassment by some kind of

1477
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:09,730
microwave energy and he talked about

1478
01:18:15,990 --> 01:18:12,370
that he knew for a fact that there had

1479
01:18:18,480 --> 01:18:16,000
been discs and bodies retrieved and that

1480
01:18:20,490 --> 01:18:18,490
they had been held underground in Norton

1481
01:18:23,610 --> 01:18:20,500
Air Force Base in California and he was

1482
01:18:27,450 --> 01:18:23,620
talking to us about that as if these

1483
01:18:31,380 --> 01:18:27,460
were facts that he knew and we got to

1484
01:18:34,140 --> 01:18:31,390
talking about why the suppression and he

1485
01:18:37,850 --> 01:18:34,150
said I feel embarrassed in my life that

1486
01:18:41,700 --> 01:18:37,860
as a astronomer that I was roped into

1487
01:18:44,660 --> 01:18:41,710
being used by the Air Force to come out

1488
01:18:48,210 --> 01:18:44,670
and say in Michigan it was swamp gas or

1489
01:18:51,210 --> 01:18:48,220
some other term that he really didn't

1490
01:18:53,310 --> 01:18:51,220
leave and that now at that point in his

1491
01:18:55,500 --> 01:18:53,320
life he really wanted the truth and he

1492
01:18:58,560 --> 01:18:55,510
really wanted to see the craft he wanted

1493
01:19:03,030 --> 01:18:58,570
to see the bodies and this Jimmy was the

1494
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:03,040
exact tone of J Allen Hynek who had been

1495
01:19:08,580 --> 01:19:04,810
an astronomer at Ohio State in

1496
01:19:11,470 --> 01:19:08,590
northwestern and worked on with the Air

1497
01:19:14,350 --> 01:19:11,480
Force on me what we all know

1498
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:14,360
now it was a phony project Bluebook to

1499
01:19:18,940 --> 01:19:16,610
get the public in the media off the air

1500
01:19:21,910 --> 01:19:18,950
forces back while the government was

1501
01:19:27,700 --> 01:19:21,920
always and never stopped investigating

1502
01:19:30,729 --> 01:19:27,710
the real UFO et site of things and so it

1503
01:19:33,729 --> 01:19:30,739
is amazing to me when you bring up Jim

1504
01:19:35,500 --> 01:19:33,739
and that whole period of time when some

1505
01:19:38,110 --> 01:19:35,510
of us were paralleling in our

1506
01:19:41,970 --> 01:19:38,120
investigations and that that discussion

1507
01:19:46,780 --> 01:19:41,980
with jail and Hynek that night it was

1508
01:19:52,860 --> 01:19:46,790
even more profound in some ways because

1509
01:19:56,020 --> 01:19:52,870
at one point he put his left hand on my

1510
01:19:57,700 --> 01:19:56,030
right wrist where the three of us were

1511
01:20:00,640 --> 01:19:57,710
sitting at a kind of a small dinner

1512
01:20:02,650 --> 01:20:00,650
table and he looked at me and he said

1513
01:20:04,380 --> 01:20:02,660
Linda do you think I will be vindicated

1514
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:04,390
in my lifetime

1515
01:20:14,970 --> 01:20:09,650
and he had tears in his eyes and I still

1516
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:14,980
remember that moment that this man who

1517
01:20:22,690 --> 01:20:19,010
really did want to know the truth and I

1518
01:20:26,260 --> 01:20:22,700
think had a lot of data and he certainly

1519
01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:26,270
talked about bodies and craft at Norton

1520
01:20:35,290 --> 01:20:30,050
Air Force Base with the solidity of of

1521
01:20:38,260 --> 01:20:35,300
knowledge but he said that he was denied

1522
01:20:40,450 --> 01:20:38,270
seeing them that after all of the work

1523
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:40,460
that he had done with the Air Force and

1524
01:20:47,229 --> 01:20:44,690
and how he had sort of taken a 90 degree

1525
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:47,239
path away from being a first-class

1526
01:20:53,740 --> 01:20:51,170
astronomer and had become somebody who

1527
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:53,750
did the bidding of the Air Force and

1528
01:20:59,890 --> 01:20:55,730
then eventually had founded the Center

1529
01:21:04,360 --> 01:20:59,900
for UFO studies right that he had

1530
01:21:08,110 --> 01:21:04,370
sacrificed one profession in an effort

1531
01:21:11,460 --> 01:21:08,120
to get to the truth in this complex

1532
01:21:15,210 --> 01:21:11,470
multi multi faceted multi-layered

1533
01:21:19,090 --> 01:21:15,220
phenomena and that that night at dinner

1534
01:21:22,770 --> 01:21:19,100
when he grasped my wrist it was almost

1535
01:21:25,690 --> 01:21:22,780
like we didn't know what was coming and

1536
01:21:29,740 --> 01:21:25,700
yet I think of that mom

1537
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:29,750
he would be dead by April that's crazy

1538
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:32,570
did you have any really happen yeah and

1539
01:21:37,420 --> 01:21:35,330
you and I have talked about it so many

1540
01:21:40,390 --> 01:21:37,430
different aspects of this time period

1541
01:21:43,140 --> 01:21:40,400
and what was going on in your life and

1542
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:43,150
you know bennewitz and and and Dodie and

1543
01:21:50,140 --> 01:21:45,770
Washington DC and of course the networks

1544
01:21:55,180 --> 01:21:50,150
and HBO and this whole period was a

1545
01:21:58,390 --> 01:21:55,190
pivotal time I want to ask you a couple

1546
01:22:03,150 --> 01:21:58,400
of questions about this did bennewitz to

1547
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:03,160
you did Paul seem ungrounded to you no

1548
01:22:14,290 --> 01:22:09,250
no the opposite a man with a sharp mind

1549
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:14,300
who let's put this put it this way those

1550
01:22:21,250 --> 01:22:18,050
of us who want to get the truth once we

1551
01:22:24,700 --> 01:22:21,260
are exposed to some of the facets of the

1552
01:22:27,340 --> 01:22:24,710
UFO phenomena it is like walking through

1553
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:27,350
Alice in Wonderland's mirror right

1554
01:22:35,350 --> 01:22:31,730
because one day and one hour you are

1555
01:22:39,790 --> 01:22:35,360
living a life that had no UFOs or eat

1556
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:39,800
cheese in it and then you something

1557
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:43,370
happens and you become aware you become

1558
01:22:52,030 --> 01:22:48,650
conscious and in that moment you want to

1559
01:22:55,270 --> 01:22:52,040
know the truth you want to see the craft

1560
01:22:57,490 --> 01:22:55,280
you want to meet the ETS you want to

1561
01:23:00,640 --> 01:22:57,500
know about them you want to know I

1562
01:23:03,580 --> 01:23:00,650
wanted to know why animal mutilations

1563
01:23:05,830 --> 01:23:03,590
why human abduction why so many

1564
01:23:09,190 --> 01:23:05,840
different types described by so many

1565
01:23:12,700 --> 01:23:09,200
people what would be the alien presence

1566
01:23:15,220 --> 01:23:12,710
goal and agenda on this planet in which

1567
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:15,230
the surface life anyway was dominated by

1568
01:23:21,610 --> 01:23:18,530
homo sapien sapien by exposure to the

1569
01:23:23,380 --> 01:23:21,620
those words in that briefing paper shown

1570
01:23:26,010 --> 01:23:23,390
to me at Kirtland Air Force Base when I

1571
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:26,020
was working on the HBO project

1572
01:23:30,580 --> 01:23:28,370
extraterrestrial biological entities

1573
01:23:34,900 --> 01:23:30,590
manipulated DNA in already evolving

1574
01:23:38,940 --> 01:23:34,910
primates to create homo sapien those

1575
01:23:44,190 --> 01:23:38,950
were words on that page how can you

1576
01:23:46,290 --> 01:23:44,200
how can anybody be exposed to what I was

1577
01:23:48,750 --> 01:23:46,300
being exposed to from the animal

1578
01:23:51,230 --> 01:23:48,760
mutilations to the human abductions to a

1579
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:51,240
briefing paper like that and more and

1580
01:23:57,450 --> 01:23:54,610
not want to keep going to the bottom of

1581
01:23:59,730 --> 01:23:57,460
the well to know the answers to all of

1582
01:24:04,560 --> 01:23:59,740
these questions of who what why where

1583
01:24:07,620 --> 01:24:04,570
and from so that's where the Alice in

1584
01:24:10,620 --> 01:24:07,630
Wonderland mirror comes in because one

1585
01:24:13,940 --> 01:24:10,630
day I'm Director of Special Projects as

1586
01:24:17,220 --> 01:24:13,950
the CBS station in Denver and I am doing

1587
01:24:20,190 --> 01:24:17,230
environment and medicine in science and

1588
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:20,200
training of astronauts and those kinds

1589
01:24:27,390 --> 01:24:22,930
of subjects and then animal mutilations

1590
01:24:30,180 --> 01:24:27,400
are in front of me and I go into nine

1591
01:24:33,030 --> 01:24:30,190
months 18 hours a day literally without

1592
01:24:37,010 --> 01:24:33,040
break and produced the 90-minute special

1593
01:24:40,010 --> 01:24:37,020
estranged harvest and once that aired

1594
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:40,020
you know I didn't know it at the time

1595
01:24:46,590 --> 01:24:43,810
but there really was no turning back

1596
01:24:49,860 --> 01:24:46,600
from the other side of the Alice in

1597
01:24:52,860 --> 01:24:49,870
Wonderland mirror for me because I was

1598
01:24:56,700 --> 01:24:52,870
being exposed to too many mysteries

1599
01:24:59,850 --> 01:24:56,710
profound and the whole other bigger box

1600
01:25:01,680 --> 01:24:59,860
question if there are mutilations and

1601
01:25:04,110 --> 01:25:01,690
human abductions and ancient

1602
01:25:09,480 --> 01:25:04,120
civilizations were carved out by other

1603
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:09,490
intelligences and the whole gamut how do

1604
01:25:16,380 --> 01:25:12,730
you how would you ever with a curious

1605
01:25:18,030 --> 01:25:16,390
mind how would you ever walk away from

1606
01:25:21,650 --> 01:25:18,040
those questions without getting the

1607
01:25:24,480 --> 01:25:21,660
answers and as you and I and Jim and

1608
01:25:26,700 --> 01:25:24,490
everybody that we know who is seriously

1609
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:26,710
trying to get to the bottom of all of

1610
01:25:33,290 --> 01:25:32,290
this the questions that lead to some

1611
01:25:36,780 --> 01:25:33,300
answers

1612
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:36,790
keep going to more profound questions

1613
01:25:42,270 --> 01:25:40,090
and instead of narrowing down to

1614
01:25:44,310 --> 01:25:42,280
fundamental answers when you get into

1615
01:25:46,860 --> 01:25:44,320
this phenomena when you cross through

1616
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:46,870
that Alice in Wonderland mirror you

1617
01:25:52,290 --> 01:25:50,290
suddenly find yourself in a bigger box

1618
01:25:55,229 --> 01:25:52,300
and a bigger box and a big

1619
01:25:58,410 --> 01:25:55,239
box and that has become a kind of

1620
01:26:03,120 --> 01:25:58,420
excitement for me is that I am now

1621
01:26:04,830 --> 01:26:03,130
trying to seriously talk with physicists

1622
01:26:08,129 --> 01:26:04,840
about could we be in a

1623
01:26:11,729 --> 01:26:08,139
computer-simulated universe are the fast

1624
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:11,739
radio bursts as avi Loeb at Harvard

1625
01:26:18,330 --> 01:26:14,770
University wrote in papers earlier this

1626
01:26:20,010 --> 01:26:18,340
spring the hypothesis is that the fast

1627
01:26:24,330 --> 01:26:20,020
radio bursts of which we've recorded

1628
01:26:28,580 --> 01:26:24,340
it's 27 or 28 now that they could be the

1629
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:28,590
signature of light travel transportation

1630
01:26:36,089 --> 01:26:32,770
processes and he uses those terms in his

1631
01:26:39,180 --> 01:26:36,099
paper and he's chairman of the astronomy

1632
01:26:42,990 --> 01:26:39,190
department at Harvard University and he

1633
01:26:46,879 --> 01:26:43,000
is on the board of directors for star

1634
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:46,889
shot and star shot is the growing

1635
01:26:53,189 --> 01:26:49,570
program in which we are going to try to

1636
01:26:56,430 --> 01:26:53,199
launch small lightweight but extremely

1637
01:26:58,140 --> 01:26:56,440
intelligent these this would be a space

1638
01:27:02,399 --> 01:26:58,150
application of artificial intelligence

1639
01:27:04,859 --> 01:27:02,409
like taking an iPhone and maybe putting

1640
01:27:08,580 --> 01:27:04,869
it on steroids but it will still stay

1641
01:27:11,069 --> 01:27:08,590
small and it will be launched maybe from

1642
01:27:13,589 --> 01:27:11,079
the moon because then there would be

1643
01:27:16,379 --> 01:27:13,599
less atmosphere and they're going to try

1644
01:27:18,780 --> 01:27:16,389
to get star shot in these first launches

1645
01:27:19,530 --> 01:27:18,790
headed toward Alpha Centauri four

1646
01:27:22,500 --> 01:27:19,540
light-years

1647
01:27:26,459 --> 01:27:22,510
the closest star and planet system and

1648
01:27:27,990 --> 01:27:26,469
if they can launch the first launch and

1649
01:27:32,399 --> 01:27:28,000
get one of these

1650
01:27:36,750 --> 01:27:32,409
smart smart AI space traveling machines

1651
01:27:39,569 --> 01:27:36,760
going at 30% the speed of light they

1652
01:27:42,060 --> 01:27:39,579
could get it to Alpha Centauri to do

1653
01:27:46,350 --> 01:27:42,070
measurements and photograph and all of

1654
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:46,360
that maybe in 15 16 years and while

1655
01:27:52,410 --> 01:27:49,530
that's happening the idea is each year

1656
01:27:57,629 --> 01:27:52,420
we would keep progressing and our

1657
01:28:01,049 --> 01:27:57,639
ability to launch the AI to let's say

1658
01:28:03,629 --> 01:28:01,059
50% the speed of light then 70% the

1659
01:28:04,790 --> 01:28:03,639
speed of light then 80% the speed of

1660
01:28:06,710 --> 01:28:04,800
light

1661
01:28:08,990 --> 01:28:06,720
if we got up to a hundred percent the

1662
01:28:11,930 --> 01:28:09,000
speed of light which is the hypothesis

1663
01:28:14,180 --> 01:28:11,940
about what fast radio bursts might be a

1664
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:14,190
hundred percent the speed of light or

1665
01:28:19,460 --> 01:28:17,130
near that Alpha Centauri is four

1666
01:28:23,330 --> 01:28:19,470
light-years away we'd get there in four

1667
01:28:24,850 --> 01:28:23,340
years now the issue that I don't know

1668
01:28:28,550 --> 01:28:24,860
what they're going to do about this is

1669
01:28:30,530 --> 01:28:28,560
okay you get there and you have your

1670
01:28:33,070 --> 01:28:30,540
recording and you're photographing like

1671
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:33,080
we've done on Mars it'll take four years

1672
01:28:40,460 --> 01:28:37,130
somehow to transmit it back to earth

1673
01:28:42,740 --> 01:28:40,470
meanwhile we don't have a tennis match

1674
01:28:45,530 --> 01:28:42,750
we don't have somebody out there that

1675
01:28:47,260 --> 01:28:45,540
will bat it back at the speed of light

1676
01:28:50,870 --> 01:28:47,270
or near the speed of light to the earth

1677
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:50,880
we'd have to get there and we'd have to

1678
01:28:57,920 --> 01:28:54,210
send some I guess a human base crew

1679
01:29:00,080 --> 01:28:57,930
after the AI has gone and decided we

1680
01:29:02,870 --> 01:29:00,090
decide whether or not it was something

1681
01:29:04,510 --> 01:29:02,880
that was habitable but Jimmy all of this

1682
01:29:09,940 --> 01:29:04,520
is happening now

1683
01:29:15,620 --> 01:29:09,950
Elon Musk he wants to launch to Mars in

1684
01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:15,630
2026 maybe earlier they star shot they

1685
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:20,370
want to get these as smart a is launched

1686
01:29:25,940 --> 01:29:22,530
at some percentage of the speed of light

1687
01:29:28,070 --> 01:29:25,950
toward Alpha Centauri by twenty eight

1688
01:29:30,820 --> 01:29:28,080
I'm frame somewhere around twenty twenty

1689
01:29:34,100 --> 01:29:30,830
six and it's like in spite of ourselves

1690
01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:34,110
in spite of all of the geopolitical

1691
01:29:42,230 --> 01:29:38,370
problems environmental issues Homo

1692
01:29:45,890 --> 01:29:42,240
Sapien humanity seems determined may be

1693
01:29:48,740 --> 01:29:45,900
destined we're all ready we're going out

1694
01:29:52,490 --> 01:29:48,750
into our solar system we're going to

1695
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:52,500
head out toward Alpha Centauri the Space

1696
01:29:59,630 --> 01:29:56,090
Age is upon us why we are trying a

1697
01:30:05,320 --> 01:29:59,640
surface creatures on earth just to

1698
01:30:09,860 --> 01:30:05,330
survive ourselves what a kids of phrenic

1699
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:09,870
civilization we are would you Linda be

1700
01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:14,610
straight with me it's the end of your

1701
01:30:18,590 --> 01:30:17,370
there J Allen Hynek it's the end of

1702
01:30:20,900 --> 01:30:18,600
Close Encounters

1703
01:30:23,780 --> 01:30:20,910
you're at the top of Devil's Tower do

1704
01:30:27,110 --> 01:30:23,790
you get on that spaceship do you do you

1705
01:30:29,660 --> 01:30:27,120
go and hang out do you leave Earth if

1706
01:30:33,470 --> 01:30:29,670
you had the opportunity would you go god

1707
01:30:35,570 --> 01:30:33,480
I remember exactly in 19 it was 78 I

1708
01:30:38,570 --> 01:30:35,580
think when encounters came out the

1709
01:30:43,010 --> 01:30:38,580
Spielberg film right and I remember this

1710
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:43,020
was before 79 this is before any this is

1711
01:30:47,780 --> 01:30:44,970
before I go through the Alice in

1712
01:30:49,730 --> 01:30:47,790
Wonderland mirror into trying to

1713
01:30:52,190 --> 01:30:49,740
understand UFOs and ETS and animal

1714
01:30:55,970 --> 01:30:52,200
mutilations that didn't come until I

1715
01:30:59,570 --> 01:30:55,980
start doing the film a strange harvest

1716
01:31:02,680 --> 01:30:59,580
in September 79 so I remember distinctly

1717
01:31:05,450 --> 01:31:02,690
being in a movie theater watching

1718
01:31:08,060 --> 01:31:05,460
encounters and at the end with all those

1719
01:31:13,340 --> 01:31:08,070
orange suited astronauts going into that

1720
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:13,350
big huge UFO oh my god yes I wanted to

1721
01:31:21,070 --> 01:31:18,330
go and see the universe I was so jealous

1722
01:31:23,480 --> 01:31:21,080
of Richard Dreyfuss I wanted to be I

1723
01:31:26,570 --> 01:31:23,490
would do it that this is what I said

1724
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:26,580
though I said this last month we were

1725
01:31:29,660 --> 01:31:28,050
talking about it here on the show this

1726
01:31:32,450 --> 01:31:29,670
is what I you know what would really

1727
01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:32,460
determine if I got on the ship or not

1728
01:31:43,370 --> 01:31:36,090
now don't laugh no you can laugh food I

1729
01:31:45,860 --> 01:31:43,380
want to make sure because you know you

1730
01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:45,870
get on the ship right and and you're

1731
01:31:50,480 --> 01:31:47,970
going to you're all excited and you sit

1732
01:31:56,300 --> 01:31:50,490
down for your first meal and it's some

1733
01:31:59,120 --> 01:31:56,310
crazy thing okay okay reality check what

1734
01:32:02,770 --> 01:31:59,130
are we doing with Xerox printers today

1735
01:32:06,290 --> 01:32:02,780
inodes we're making organs we're making

1736
01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:06,300
jewelry we're making fine precision

1737
01:32:10,310 --> 01:32:06,930
tools

1738
01:32:12,110 --> 01:32:10,320
I swear Jimmy somewhere in that kind of

1739
01:32:13,940 --> 01:32:12,120
process we're going to end up with

1740
01:32:16,010 --> 01:32:13,950
exactly what they showed on Star Trek

1741
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:16,020
where they would go up to that machine

1742
01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:19,890
and they would get any anything they

1743
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:22,530
could manifest because somehow if you

1744
01:32:28,790 --> 01:32:25,890
have all the elements and you somehow

1745
01:32:30,710 --> 01:32:28,800
have something that can take the atomic

1746
01:32:32,100 --> 01:32:30,720
structure of whatever elements go into

1747
01:32:34,470 --> 01:32:32,110
making a coke or

1748
01:32:36,540 --> 01:32:34,480
hamburger or whatever is right and that

1749
01:32:38,879 --> 01:32:36,550
you have something like these Xerox

1750
01:32:41,939 --> 01:32:38,889
printers then the idea that you could

1751
01:32:45,149 --> 01:32:41,949
have filet mignon with a Cabernet

1752
01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:45,159
Sauvignon and some kind of a ship going

1753
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:50,050
to Mars I think it's doable just in

1754
01:32:54,540 --> 01:32:52,570
terms of concept and that's why I left

1755
01:32:56,729 --> 01:32:54,550
because I think we are at that point if

1756
01:32:59,790 --> 01:32:56,739
we are making organs that are going to

1757
01:33:03,330 --> 01:32:59,800
go surgically into bodies from the Xerox

1758
01:33:06,810 --> 01:33:03,340
printers we would be able to do food I

1759
01:33:08,580 --> 01:33:06,820
think and all of this comes to this

1760
01:33:11,689 --> 01:33:08,590
other big mystery that I have been

1761
01:33:15,030 --> 01:33:11,699
trying to solve for the since 2011 and

1762
01:33:18,209 --> 01:33:15,040
this our this is all of these booms

1763
01:33:21,899 --> 01:33:18,219
around the planet and why jump there as

1764
01:33:24,870 --> 01:33:21,909
we are at this stage some kind of

1765
01:33:26,609 --> 01:33:24,880
revolutionary transition and I hope next

1766
01:33:29,100 --> 01:33:26,619
year we're going to have the headlines

1767
01:33:32,220 --> 01:33:29,110
around the world we're not alone in this

1768
01:33:35,550 --> 01:33:32,230
universe and that once that happens

1769
01:33:37,410 --> 01:33:35,560
that's kind of a 90-degree turn of going

1770
01:33:39,510 --> 01:33:37,420
through the Alice in Wonderland mirror

1771
01:33:42,359 --> 01:33:39,520
for the whole planet in a strange way

1772
01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:42,369
and nothing will be quite the same again

1773
01:33:48,470 --> 01:33:45,130
but I hope it is more exciting and

1774
01:33:52,979 --> 01:33:48,480
positive and some people think well

1775
01:33:55,050 --> 01:33:52,989
we're in a period of time where the

1776
01:33:57,090 --> 01:33:55,060
numbers of mysteries that are being

1777
01:34:00,899 --> 01:33:57,100
reported now on a weekly and monthly

1778
01:34:03,899 --> 01:34:00,909
basis in all of the media that you and I

1779
01:34:06,330 --> 01:34:03,909
and others track it seems exponentially

1780
01:34:09,209 --> 01:34:06,340
expanding and that one of those

1781
01:34:12,419 --> 01:34:09,219
mysteries that has not gone away

1782
01:34:15,899 --> 01:34:12,429
it has persisted constantly around the

1783
01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:15,909
planet the whole world are the boon that

1784
01:34:25,109 --> 01:34:20,770
can be associated with a bright blinding

1785
01:34:28,649 --> 01:34:25,119
flash of light no and when this has

1786
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:28,659
occurred and I've done my own follow-up

1787
01:34:34,649 --> 01:34:30,610
follow-up with what was the weather like

1788
01:34:37,649 --> 01:34:34,659
clear skies no thunder no lightning and

1789
01:34:40,530 --> 01:34:37,659
yet these blinding flashes one was even

1790
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:40,540
caught on a security camera and they

1791
01:34:45,750 --> 01:34:44,650
started in what I will call a persistent

1792
01:34:48,330 --> 01:34:45,760
pattern in

1793
01:34:50,609 --> 01:34:48,340
20:11 people can talk about the Seneca

1794
01:34:52,350 --> 01:34:50,619
guns and various parts of the planet

1795
01:34:56,100 --> 01:34:52,360
that over the centuries somebody would

1796
01:34:58,500 --> 01:34:56,110
report some loud sound I'm not I'm not

1797
01:35:01,770 --> 01:34:58,510
saying that didn't exist I'm saying

1798
01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:01,780
something else started happening in 2011

1799
01:35:08,850 --> 01:35:05,170
that had cycles to it there are places

1800
01:35:14,759 --> 01:35:08,860
like Kentucky Fort Knox where the booms

1801
01:35:16,830 --> 01:35:14,769
come each year since 2011 in July well

1802
01:35:20,509 --> 01:35:16,840
let's take let's take a break right here

1803
01:35:23,970 --> 01:35:20,519
we got a do it and this booms thing

1804
01:35:26,879 --> 01:35:23,980
Linda there is something going on

1805
01:35:29,009 --> 01:35:26,889
I cannot waiting this morning I'm going

1806
01:35:31,410 --> 01:35:29,019
to tell you about after the break we'll

1807
01:35:33,299 --> 01:35:31,420
be right back with Linda Moulton Howes

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listening to Jim E church this is

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revolution the revolution will not be

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televised the revolution is on radio

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Moulton Howe you know Linda we do this

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every year with you and it's an honor to

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01:40:17,180 --> 01:40:14,429
have you on the program but you become

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such great friends you know with our

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fate or not community and and of course

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you know the stable that we have over at

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AK a GRA and what you're doing with John

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Burroughs and and now Guyot which is an

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outstanding program by the way I've

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watched them all but and I just want to

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thank you for that in advance and so

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let's get Jimmy thank you for

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01:40:46,129 --> 01:40:42,659
interfacing with the world on so many

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subjects that need to be out there well

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01:40:53,120 --> 01:40:50,730
and and this this boons thing probably I

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01:40:56,330 --> 01:40:53,130
started getting email about it about

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01:40:58,339 --> 01:40:56,340
four years ago and I started to go off

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01:41:02,030 --> 01:40:58,349
and do research on it spoke to you about

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01:41:05,270 --> 01:41:02,040
it on numerous occasions and this is

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something that is real and it is what I

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01:41:12,050 --> 01:41:09,719
mean by real is it's being documented by

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just average citizens all around the

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01:41:16,970 --> 01:41:13,619
world they're wondering what's going on

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01:41:19,939 --> 01:41:16,980
and we just did this TV show with a

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01:41:21,950 --> 01:41:19,949
History Channel and we try to capture

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01:41:23,290 --> 01:41:21,960
some of these booms and you know the

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towels hum

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01:41:28,550 --> 01:41:26,040
amongst other things there is something

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01:41:32,330 --> 01:41:28,560
going on and you told me this morning

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that something happened this morning

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what that's right I opened up my email

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and here was this here I'm reading it

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hello my name is Norberto Matta I have

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been

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01:41:48,420 --> 01:41:46,000
following your investigative work about

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01:41:50,070 --> 01:41:48,430
the unknown booms around the world and I

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01:41:54,240 --> 01:41:50,080
had never heard those strange sounds

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until just this past month and then says

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the boom started here in the city of

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Chihuahua Mexico in the past month which

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is almost straight south if people know

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01:42:10,050 --> 01:42:07,870
las cruces in new mexico if you go

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straight south from las cruces you will

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come to Chihuahua and he said also with

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some of the booms here there have been

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sightings of weird bright flashes of

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light but no clouds or rain and he sent

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along a link and I went to the link that

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was in Spanish and thankfully we have

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Google Translate that works pretty well

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and I posted this morning at my

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earthfiles comm headlines page that

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early this morning of December 5th 2017

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Chihuahua Mexico police and firemen

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responded to residents reporting loud

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explosive booming noises on the north

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side of the city the investigators

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themselves heard explosion sounds and

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they went off in units to explore the

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plaza biota the Zaragoza industries in

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the Chihuahua cement plant but they

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01:43:10,170 --> 01:43:06,490
could not find the source of any loud

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01:43:14,220 --> 01:43:10,180
booms which is part of this mystery is

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that various will say its police and

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fire and mayors and city council people

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will go out into the city where people

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01:43:24,420 --> 01:43:21,400
are reporting booms sometimes it's

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thousands of people calling and nobody

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can find any evidence of an explosion

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01:43:36,690 --> 01:43:32,850
but here is the interesting part from

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2011 to 2017 this has been six years of

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these reports and I think I have about

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400 reports at her files alone and in

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01:43:49,710 --> 01:43:47,470
all of these interviews sometimes with

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authorities and lot with people who I

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call the ear witnesses and sometimes

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01:43:58,200 --> 01:43:55,030
eyewitnesses to the flashes here Jimmy

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is part of why this is such

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01:44:04,900 --> 01:44:01,010
interesting mystery you will talk with

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01:44:08,830 --> 01:44:04,910
people who say I felt like a compression

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01:44:10,870 --> 01:44:08,840
wave coming and hitting me or hitting

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01:44:13,720 --> 01:44:10,880
the side of the house or they have a

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01:44:15,850 --> 01:44:13,730
very specific place one wall in the

1972
01:44:17,740 --> 01:44:15,860
house shook and the rest of the house

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01:44:20,470 --> 01:44:17,750
did not they talked about it as a

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01:44:23,410 --> 01:44:20,480
compression wave coming from above and

1975
01:44:26,020 --> 01:44:23,420
being very focused other people like

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01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:26,030
there was a mayor in Michigan she was

1977
01:44:32,470 --> 01:44:29,570
out with her city engineers they had had

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01:44:34,330 --> 01:44:32,480
hundreds of calls from people who were

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01:44:37,900 --> 01:44:34,340
reporting that they were hearing these

1980
01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:37,910
loud booms so she as mayor decided that

1981
01:44:42,850 --> 01:44:39,970
she would walk with her city engineers

1982
01:44:45,310 --> 01:44:42,860
staying up all night and suddenly they

1983
01:44:49,180 --> 01:44:45,320
all heard one of these explosive booms

1984
01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:49,190
and she was on a sidewalk downtown and

1985
01:44:54,340 --> 01:44:51,770
she felt these were this was her verb

1986
01:44:58,600 --> 01:44:54,350
that she used it felt like something

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01:45:01,360 --> 01:44:58,610
slapped the bottoms of my feet so now

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01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:01,370
that's something coming from below what

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is the source that manifests itself as

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01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:09,200
atmospheric compression waves with a

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01:45:15,510 --> 01:45:13,210
focus in some cases and in others is

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01:45:18,490 --> 01:45:15,520
cracking sidewalks

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01:45:22,570 --> 01:45:18,500
knocking garage doors out of their

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01:45:27,610 --> 01:45:22,580
tracks slamming the bottoms of a Mary's

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01:45:29,560 --> 01:45:27,620
from below that is to that to me it goes

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01:45:37,210 --> 01:45:29,570
to the heart of what are we dealing with

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01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:37,220
and now add on this there are computers

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01:45:44,350 --> 01:45:40,370
that are trying to take a whole bunch of

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01:45:47,290 --> 01:45:44,360
data related to the question could the

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01:45:50,800 --> 01:45:47,300
magnetic poles of Earth be getting ready

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01:45:54,820 --> 01:45:50,810
to switch positions this century right

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01:45:57,250 --> 01:45:54,830
and in the scientists that I've talked

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01:45:59,050 --> 01:45:57,260
to about this and I've done a think half

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01:46:00,880 --> 01:45:59,060
a dozen reports that are files on that

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01:46:06,310 --> 01:46:00,890
question and with people who are

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01:46:09,490 --> 01:46:06,320
studying it they the best data that we

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01:46:11,710 --> 01:46:09,500
have right now on the earth for what

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01:46:14,890 --> 01:46:11,720
happened back at the last time

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01:46:18,030 --> 01:46:14,900
there was a magnetic magnetic pole ship

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01:46:21,870 --> 01:46:18,040
which for listeners it is not the crust

2011
01:46:25,360 --> 01:46:21,880
changing is nothing geophysical e

2012
01:46:29,470 --> 01:46:25,370
switching around it is the magnetic

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01:46:33,010 --> 01:46:29,480
field positive and negative they change

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01:46:36,550 --> 01:46:33,020
positions so that the magnetic field

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01:46:40,180 --> 01:46:36,560
that's in the Antarctic now will be up

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01:46:42,760 --> 01:46:40,190
somewhere in the Arctic area or Siberia

2017
01:46:46,210 --> 01:46:42,770
and the one that's been in the Arctic

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01:46:48,190 --> 01:46:46,220
will be down in Antarctica that's what

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01:46:50,890 --> 01:46:48,200
we talked about and it could also be in

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01:46:54,340 --> 01:46:50,900
other parts of the planet but I'm trying

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01:46:57,970 --> 01:46:54,350
to have people be able to just grasp the

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01:47:01,990 --> 01:46:57,980
basic concept that the magnetic the

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01:47:05,410 --> 01:47:02,000
poles magnetic fields will change now

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01:47:08,530 --> 01:47:05,420
the last time that this occurred several

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01:47:13,180 --> 01:47:08,540
hundred thousand years ago there is a

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01:47:15,310 --> 01:47:13,190
lake in Italy that preserved for reasons

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01:47:18,100 --> 01:47:15,320
that are not clear but preserved very

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01:47:20,590 --> 01:47:18,110
perfectly going back through the last

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01:47:24,490 --> 01:47:20,600
magnetic field change on the planet and

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the clay was undisturbed and it was

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01:47:29,020 --> 01:47:26,660
perfect and there is a scientist that I

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01:47:32,320 --> 01:47:29,030
interviewed one of my earthfiles reports

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01:47:36,010 --> 01:47:32,330
who studied these clays and they had a

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01:47:39,640 --> 01:47:36,020
paper that the revelation was that in

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01:47:42,370 --> 01:47:39,650
the hundred years leading up to the last

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01:47:43,630 --> 01:47:42,380
magnetic field change in just one

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01:47:49,240 --> 01:47:43,640
hundred years

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01:47:54,550 --> 01:47:49,250
the magnetic field of the earth went

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01:47:56,590 --> 01:47:54,560
down to zero or near zero a few times I

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01:47:59,020 --> 01:47:56,600
think it was four or five times during

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01:48:02,170 --> 01:47:59,030
those hundred years now why is this

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01:48:05,620 --> 01:48:02,180
really significant because this is hard

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01:48:09,520 --> 01:48:05,630
data and if you have the magnetic fields

2044
01:48:12,970 --> 01:48:09,530
of this planet go down to zero then you

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01:48:15,910 --> 01:48:12,980
could have a lot of solar particles

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01:48:18,430 --> 01:48:15,920
reaching the ground which could cause an

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01:48:21,580 --> 01:48:18,440
increase in skin cancers in humans and

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01:48:23,950 --> 01:48:21,590
what would happen to birds and marine

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01:48:25,120 --> 01:48:23,960
animals that are guided by magnetic

2050
01:48:26,890 --> 01:48:25,130
fields that's a

2051
01:48:29,890 --> 01:48:26,900
question mark and interestingly enough

2052
01:48:32,200 --> 01:48:29,900
they really are not simple answers from

2053
01:48:35,620 --> 01:48:32,210
many scientists about what exactly would

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01:48:38,229 --> 01:48:35,630
happen and for how long so if it goes

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01:48:40,300 --> 01:48:38,239
down and then comes back up and goes

2056
01:48:42,220 --> 01:48:40,310
down and comes back up and does this

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01:48:46,930 --> 01:48:42,230
half a dozen times in a hundred years

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01:48:51,760 --> 01:48:46,940
leading up we could be in that period

2059
01:48:54,910 --> 01:48:51,770
and since nobody knows what the physical

2060
01:48:57,399 --> 01:48:54,920
manifestations were is it possible that

2061
01:49:00,310 --> 01:48:57,409
we're now going to be in a century where

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01:49:02,229 --> 01:49:00,320
there will be increasing aberrations

2063
01:49:04,959 --> 01:49:02,239
with the magnetic field of this planet

2064
01:49:07,720 --> 01:49:04,969
that it could literally go down to zero

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01:49:11,399 --> 01:49:07,730
or somewhere near zero and then what

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01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:11,409
would happen and in this entire process

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01:49:17,169 --> 01:49:14,810
why do the magnetic fields change it has

2068
01:49:19,959 --> 01:49:17,179
to do with a mystery at the core of this

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01:49:25,959 --> 01:49:19,969
earth at the core of the earth there is

2070
01:49:31,959 --> 01:49:25,969
an iron crystal sphere and that iron

2071
01:49:35,620 --> 01:49:31,969
crystal sphere has iron atoms and

2072
01:49:40,149 --> 01:49:35,630
molecules under huge pressure and what

2073
01:49:44,379 --> 01:49:40,159
the computer and the investigations seem

2074
01:49:48,070 --> 01:49:44,389
to say is that there will be a change in

2075
01:49:52,959 --> 01:49:48,080
the negative and positive poles at the

2076
01:49:56,290 --> 01:49:52,969
molecular level before there is the big

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01:49:59,229 --> 01:49:56,300
magnetic field change at the poles why

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01:50:01,810 --> 01:49:59,239
that occurs in the big iron crystal

2079
01:50:05,410 --> 01:50:01,820
sphere at the center of the earth is not

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01:50:08,950 --> 01:50:05,420
exactly clear but it means that there

2081
01:50:13,620 --> 01:50:08,960
could be changes then at the core that

2082
01:50:18,040 --> 01:50:13,630
could have infrasound that goes through

2083
01:50:21,970 --> 01:50:18,050
the mantle comes up out of the Rhine we

2084
01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:21,980
literally live on a rind it is only on

2085
01:50:30,209 --> 01:50:25,850
average about 15 to 25 miles of what we

2086
01:50:34,270 --> 01:50:30,219
call earth surface and when you go down

2087
01:50:37,250 --> 01:50:34,280
through the rind that we all live on you

2088
01:50:40,700 --> 01:50:37,260
get into the area where the mantle

2089
01:50:43,279 --> 01:50:40,710
is and you start getting into it it's

2090
01:50:49,279 --> 01:50:43,289
like hot jello as you keep going down

2091
01:50:52,910 --> 01:50:49,289
and that if you have changes going on in

2092
01:50:56,319 --> 01:50:52,920
an iron crystal at the center of this

2093
01:50:59,689 --> 01:50:56,329
eight thousand mile diameter planet

2094
01:51:02,089 --> 01:50:59,699
could it make infrasound that would go

2095
01:51:05,500 --> 01:51:02,099
through that mantle come out through the

2096
01:51:09,979 --> 01:51:05,510
surface ring go up into the atmosphere

2097
01:51:14,089 --> 01:51:09,989
slam into the ionosphere and come back

2098
01:51:16,310 --> 01:51:14,099
bounce back to the earth and change from

2099
01:51:22,549 --> 01:51:16,320
infrasound that human ears could not

2100
01:51:26,180 --> 01:51:22,559
hear to a bone or metallic sounds or

2101
01:51:28,549 --> 01:51:26,190
even the strange strange trumpet like

2102
01:51:31,399 --> 01:51:28,559
sounds that have had many variations

2103
01:51:33,740 --> 01:51:31,409
that have been recorded on many various

2104
01:51:37,490 --> 01:51:33,750
audio cassettes around the world right

2105
01:51:39,740 --> 01:51:37,500
well wouldn't it be something if what

2106
01:51:42,859 --> 01:51:39,750
we're experiencing and all of us around

2107
01:51:45,080 --> 01:51:42,869
the world was the prelude to the

2108
01:51:48,919 --> 01:51:45,090
magnetic fields changing it's

2109
01:51:51,109 --> 01:51:48,929
speculation but this to me is part of

2110
01:51:54,080 --> 01:51:51,119
the excitement of investigating

2111
01:51:57,879 --> 01:51:54,090
scientific mysteries separate from UFOs

2112
01:52:01,069 --> 01:51:57,889
and ETS because I think that this is

2113
01:52:03,529 --> 01:52:01,079
incredible that we could be in the

2114
01:52:07,189 --> 01:52:03,539
century before the magnetic fields of

2115
01:52:10,430 --> 01:52:07,199
the earth change wait that would explain

2116
01:52:13,370 --> 01:52:10,440
why we can't find the physical evidence

2117
01:52:16,729 --> 01:52:13,380
you know dynamite atomic nuclear testing

2118
01:52:19,850 --> 01:52:16,739
whatever it supersonic planes being

2119
01:52:22,879 --> 01:52:19,860
tested a new sr-71 what had you know

2120
01:52:26,029 --> 01:52:22,889
Aurora we take the human element out of

2121
01:52:29,149 --> 01:52:26,039
it because we can't find that evidence

2122
01:52:31,569 --> 01:52:29,159
and it just may be mother nature and

2123
01:52:37,040 --> 01:52:31,579
mother nature giving us a warning and

2124
01:52:41,299 --> 01:52:37,050
that to me is that that excites me to

2125
01:52:45,709 --> 01:52:41,309
encounter unknowns and then try to keep

2126
01:52:48,080 --> 01:52:45,719
going forward to find answers and what

2127
01:52:50,629 --> 01:52:48,090
you and I and Jim Marrs and a whole

2128
01:52:53,449 --> 01:52:50,639
bunch of people understand now is the

2129
01:52:56,929 --> 01:52:53,459
when it comes to the alien presence as

2130
01:52:59,209 --> 01:52:56,939
he Howard hunt told the attorney Douglas

2131
01:53:02,120 --> 01:52:59,219
caddy before he was going to prison that

2132
01:53:04,790 --> 01:53:02,130
the reason the CIA killed John F Kennedy

2133
01:53:07,310 --> 01:53:04,800
was because he wanted to open up the

2134
01:53:09,620 --> 01:53:07,320
alien presence to the Soviet Union and

2135
01:53:12,589 --> 01:53:09,630
they couldn't allow it and you have

2136
01:53:19,009 --> 01:53:12,599
something that provocative and that big

2137
01:53:21,889 --> 01:53:19,019
and you think this is this is a doorway

2138
01:53:24,049 --> 01:53:21,899
into understanding what's the truth

2139
01:53:26,719 --> 01:53:24,059
about an alien presence but then what

2140
01:53:28,580 --> 01:53:26,729
you find is that as soon as you have

2141
01:53:31,429 --> 01:53:28,590
people inside the government who are

2142
01:53:34,299 --> 01:53:31,439
actual whistleblowers that they've been

2143
01:53:38,750 --> 01:53:34,309
exposed to only a small piece of

2144
01:53:42,709 --> 01:53:38,760
something so complex and so vast and so

2145
01:53:46,009 --> 01:53:42,719
big as other life in this universe that

2146
01:53:49,689 --> 01:53:46,019
can send it of let's say Androids here

2147
01:53:52,219 --> 01:53:49,699
or hybrids here and self-activating

2148
01:53:53,899 --> 01:53:52,229
spacecraft that don't even need to have

2149
01:53:56,330 --> 01:53:53,909
the prime intelligence because they are

2150
01:53:58,909 --> 01:53:56,340
essentially operating like a life-form

2151
01:54:02,389 --> 01:53:58,919
with its own intelligence and the more

2152
01:54:05,229 --> 01:54:02,399
you go the more incredible it becomes

2153
01:54:08,810 --> 01:54:05,239
and the more I would like to know and

2154
01:54:11,299 --> 01:54:08,820
that Lynne Buchanan set a tone for me

2155
01:54:14,029 --> 01:54:11,309
when we did an interview on phenomena

2156
01:54:16,699 --> 01:54:14,039
radio a couple years ago and Lynne

2157
01:54:21,290 --> 01:54:16,709
Buchanan had been part of the project

2158
01:54:24,229 --> 01:54:21,300
Stargate that was office at Fort Meade

2159
01:54:26,810 --> 01:54:24,239
and it was in the old World War two

2160
01:54:29,989 --> 01:54:26,820
barracks next to the big shiny beautiful

2161
01:54:32,419 --> 01:54:29,999
National Security Agency building but

2162
01:54:35,449 --> 01:54:32,429
the CIA and the Defense Intelligence

2163
01:54:38,089 --> 01:54:35,459
Agency said that they didn't want

2164
01:54:40,819 --> 01:54:38,099
Congress to ever think that they were

2165
01:54:42,850 --> 01:54:40,829
spending too much money on remote

2166
01:54:47,839 --> 01:54:42,860
viewing so they kept them in these old

2167
01:54:50,479 --> 01:54:47,849
crumbly barracks but Lynne Buchanan was

2168
01:54:54,319 --> 01:54:50,489
one of the men in that group and for

2169
01:54:58,310 --> 01:54:54,329
reasons that are not clear in 2015 John

2170
01:55:01,040 --> 01:54:58,320
burrows got a notice that on the Central

2171
01:55:04,190 --> 01:55:01,050
Intelligence Agency real website that

2172
01:55:08,300 --> 01:55:04,200
you can go to on the web that is

2173
01:55:12,110 --> 01:55:08,310
somebody sent a URL from the CIA website

2174
01:55:17,000 --> 01:55:12,120
to John saying look at this and it was a

2175
01:55:21,710 --> 01:55:17,010
remote view of Rendlesham forest at the

2176
01:55:25,220 --> 01:55:21,720
December 26 to 28 1980 time period and I

2177
01:55:27,080 --> 01:55:25,230
knew when Buchanan from a conference and

2178
01:55:28,910 --> 01:55:27,090
had talked and seen him actually

2179
01:55:32,180 --> 01:55:28,920
demonstrate and teach a little bit about

2180
01:55:34,430 --> 01:55:32,190
remote viewing so he lives down in

2181
01:55:37,130 --> 01:55:34,440
southern New Mexico and I called him up

2182
01:55:40,070 --> 01:55:37,140
and I said Lynn let me give you a URL

2183
01:55:45,140 --> 01:55:40,080
and would you go and tell me if you

2184
01:55:47,960 --> 01:55:45,150
recognize this so I'm on the phone he is

2185
01:55:51,680 --> 01:55:47,970
going on his computer I didn't front

2186
01:55:55,540 --> 01:55:51,690
load I didn't tell him right when he saw

2187
01:55:59,660 --> 01:55:55,550
that page or this actually more than one

2188
01:56:03,650 --> 01:55:59,670
he he used words I can't use on the

2189
01:56:05,360 --> 01:56:03,660
radio he was shocked he was a study she

2190
01:56:07,040 --> 01:56:05,370
said I thought none of our remote

2191
01:56:09,650 --> 01:56:07,050
viewing work was ever going to see the

2192
01:56:12,830 --> 01:56:09,660
light of day and I said well since it's

2193
01:56:15,670 --> 01:56:12,840
there it's now officially public would

2194
01:56:18,080 --> 01:56:15,680
you do an interview both live and

2195
01:56:20,990 --> 01:56:18,090
recording for Earth files about

2196
01:56:23,720 --> 01:56:21,000
everything let's walk through every word

2197
01:56:26,780 --> 01:56:23,730
and every sentence of this incredible

2198
01:56:29,270 --> 01:56:26,790
remote viewing and here is the bottom

2199
01:56:32,090 --> 01:56:29,280
line of what made this fascinating and

2200
01:56:36,140 --> 01:56:32,100
opens this box of this universe that

2201
01:56:39,350 --> 01:56:36,150
were in even more he had in his remote

2202
01:56:41,750 --> 01:56:39,360
viewing back in 1989 that would be nine

2203
01:56:44,660 --> 01:56:41,760
years after the events in Rendlesham

2204
01:56:46,310 --> 01:56:44,670
forest in December 1980 but you know the

2205
01:56:48,890 --> 01:56:46,320
remote viewing guys they don't know what

2206
01:56:50,630 --> 01:56:48,900
their remote viewing they are doing a

2207
01:56:52,910 --> 01:56:50,640
target and they don't know what it is

2208
01:56:56,300 --> 01:56:52,920
they can only learn about it later

2209
01:56:59,240 --> 01:56:56,310
and this was what was so amazing to him

2210
01:57:02,600 --> 01:56:59,250
that was at the CIA website but he said

2211
01:57:07,640 --> 01:57:02,610
that he remembered getting down into a

2212
01:57:11,000 --> 01:57:07,650
propulsion system in a black glossy some

2213
01:57:13,940 --> 01:57:11,010
kind of triangular craft and that there

2214
01:57:17,570 --> 01:57:13,950
was a green yellow light he knew that it

2215
01:57:18,050 --> 01:57:17,580
was a self activating craft there it did

2216
01:57:20,030 --> 01:57:18,060
not

2217
01:57:22,280 --> 01:57:20,040
pilots it didn't help people who came

2218
01:57:24,890 --> 01:57:22,290
with it it would be like a very

2219
01:57:27,440 --> 01:57:24,900
sophisticated Android and there was this

2220
01:57:29,450 --> 01:57:27,450
greenish yellow light and in his remote

2221
01:57:33,170 --> 01:57:29,460
viewing he's going toward it and he says

2222
01:57:36,290 --> 01:57:33,180
it seems like there is an incubator in

2223
01:57:39,860 --> 01:57:36,300
this and I'm getting the impression that

2224
01:57:43,760 --> 01:57:39,870
this craft is here on this planet

2225
01:57:47,120 --> 01:57:43,770
looking for places to deposit something

2226
01:57:52,250 --> 01:57:47,130
like DNA to see if it will take hold and

2227
01:57:55,160 --> 01:57:52,260
create life here yeah did he did he no

2228
01:57:59,660 --> 01:57:55,170
I'm assuming not but did he know about

2229
01:58:02,300 --> 01:57:59,670
you know Burroughs nothing no no this

2230
01:58:04,520 --> 01:58:02,310
was back in 1989 and they knew nothing

2231
01:58:07,130 --> 01:58:04,530
they knew zero that's what made this so

2232
01:58:10,190 --> 01:58:07,140
astonishing and then go the next step he

2233
01:58:11,420 --> 01:58:10,200
said Linda all of us that were in

2234
01:58:13,970 --> 01:58:11,430
project Stargate

2235
01:58:16,070 --> 01:58:13,980
we all ended up with assignments targets

2236
01:58:18,050 --> 01:58:16,080
and we realized that we were going out

2237
01:58:21,260 --> 01:58:18,060
into the universe or to Mars or

2238
01:58:24,800 --> 01:58:21,270
someplace and he said what we all

2239
01:58:30,350 --> 01:58:24,810
learned is the universe is teeming with

2240
01:58:32,810 --> 01:58:30,360
life and he said some are our allies or

2241
01:58:36,470 --> 01:58:32,820
we would never have survived this long

2242
01:58:40,310 --> 01:58:36,480
and some are enemies and that means

2243
01:58:43,690 --> 01:58:40,320
there can be potential war and right

2244
01:58:48,880 --> 01:58:43,700
there in that sentence it kind of

2245
01:58:52,190 --> 01:58:48,890
encapsulate the I'm going to say a

2246
01:58:54,500 --> 01:58:52,200
series of insights that various

2247
01:58:57,470 --> 01:58:54,510
whistleblower types have given me over

2248
01:58:59,840 --> 01:58:57,480
the last thirty years in which you talk

2249
01:59:02,210 --> 01:58:59,850
to one person and they have the

2250
01:59:04,690 --> 01:59:02,220
impression that we get help from a

2251
01:59:07,250 --> 01:59:04,700
particular type and that our

2252
01:59:11,360 --> 01:59:07,260
technological evolution has been spurred

2253
01:59:14,710 --> 01:59:11,370
on purpose because if humanity does not

2254
01:59:18,680 --> 01:59:14,720
advance more quickly we will not survive

2255
01:59:22,040 --> 01:59:18,690
then there comes another it says but we

2256
01:59:25,370 --> 01:59:22,050
are potentially in a dangerous situation

2257
01:59:29,000 --> 01:59:25,380
with intelligences they may want this

2258
01:59:31,489 --> 01:59:29,010
planet they may be in war with other

2259
01:59:33,259 --> 01:59:31,499
beings that are involved with earth

2260
01:59:37,250 --> 01:59:33,269
and it may not be personal to Homo

2261
01:59:42,410 --> 01:59:37,260
Sapien but that there are Wars and that

2262
01:59:45,469 --> 01:59:42,420
the size of the scope of when you say

2263
01:59:47,830 --> 01:59:45,479
those words unidentified flying objects

2264
01:59:50,359 --> 01:59:47,840
or unidentified aerial phenomena or

2265
01:59:54,109 --> 01:59:50,369
extraterrestrial biological entities or

2266
01:59:57,680 --> 01:59:54,119
self activating software or androids

2267
02:00:00,709 --> 01:59:57,690
with intelligence we are right now

2268
02:00:04,879 --> 02:00:00,719
hearing all of the time so somebody like

2269
02:00:09,350 --> 02:00:04,889
Elon Musk who is determined he wants to

2270
02:00:12,950 --> 02:00:09,360
get to Mars he wants to use various

2271
02:00:16,549 --> 02:00:12,960
kinds of technology the idea that we

2272
02:00:19,160 --> 02:00:16,559
need to have a expansion from Earth a

2273
02:00:22,910 --> 02:00:19,170
base that would be in our solar system

2274
02:00:26,149 --> 02:00:22,920
is becoming paramount to the idea that

2275
02:00:29,149 --> 02:00:26,159
we could face an existential threat and

2276
02:00:31,129 --> 02:00:29,159
if we faced an existential threat and

2277
02:00:34,189 --> 02:00:31,139
all of our eggs were in the one basket

2278
02:00:37,100 --> 02:00:34,199
of Earth that might in and of itself be

2279
02:00:39,140 --> 02:00:37,110
a problem and so suddenly when you're

2280
02:00:41,950 --> 02:00:39,150
trying to understand what the true

2281
02:00:44,299 --> 02:00:41,960
history of the earth is of other

2282
02:00:46,669 --> 02:00:44,309
intelligences being here based here

2283
02:00:49,279 --> 02:00:46,679
millions of years ago long before homo

2284
02:00:52,239 --> 02:00:49,289
erectus ever stood up is as I understand

2285
02:00:55,100 --> 02:00:52,249
it that the Anunnaki and the Greeks were

2286
02:00:59,509 --> 02:00:55,110
extraterrestrial with very advanced

2287
02:01:02,930 --> 02:00:59,519
knowledge why should that be kept from

2288
02:01:06,229 --> 02:01:02,940
the 7.2 billion and exponentially

2289
02:01:08,719 --> 02:01:06,239
expanding human species on the earth now

2290
02:01:12,399 --> 02:01:08,729
Jimmy why should it be kept from us yeah

2291
02:01:15,890 --> 02:01:12,409
and this is the thing about that entire

2292
02:01:17,479 --> 02:01:15,900
that entire point is this and now we're

2293
02:01:19,100 --> 02:01:17,489
gonna head towards a break in three

2294
02:01:21,279 --> 02:01:19,110
minutes so I need your short answer and

2295
02:01:25,700 --> 02:01:21,289
then we'll pick it up on the back side

2296
02:01:29,839 --> 02:01:25,710
the ISS the the press release last week

2297
02:01:34,100 --> 02:01:29,849
about them finding bacteria growing on

2298
02:01:36,489 --> 02:01:34,110
the outside of the space station right

2299
02:01:39,469 --> 02:01:36,499
that that has accumulated you know

2300
02:01:42,200 --> 02:01:39,479
growing and apparently living in the

2301
02:01:43,500 --> 02:01:42,210
vacuum of space it is apparently alien

2302
02:01:47,040 --> 02:01:43,510
number one number two

2303
02:01:51,149 --> 02:01:47,050
they brought it down here to earth to

2304
02:01:52,919 --> 02:01:51,159
test now that verifies a whole lot of

2305
02:01:57,120 --> 02:01:52,929
different things if it turns out to be

2306
02:01:59,700 --> 02:01:57,130
obviously alien life what did you think

2307
02:02:03,930 --> 02:01:59,710
when you read those reports the first

2308
02:02:06,720 --> 02:02:03,940
thing that popped into my head is my god

2309
02:02:10,200 --> 02:02:06,730
it means that things that we put in the

2310
02:02:15,140 --> 02:02:10,210
category of bacteria could survive on

2311
02:02:18,839 --> 02:02:15,150
the surface of a freezing cold piece of

2312
02:02:21,299 --> 02:02:18,849
technology that we put out there that is

2313
02:02:24,419 --> 02:02:21,309
orbiting our planet in conditions that

2314
02:02:28,439 --> 02:02:24,429
would kill us and there are bacteria

2315
02:02:33,020 --> 02:02:28,449
from whatever source that can live on

2316
02:02:35,279 --> 02:02:33,030
the surface getting solar radiation in

2317
02:02:38,549 --> 02:02:35,289
absolutely mind-blowing ly cold

2318
02:02:43,700 --> 02:02:38,559
temperatures to the human mind well

2319
02:02:46,589 --> 02:02:43,710
doesn't that say our definition of life

2320
02:02:50,160 --> 02:02:46,599
our definition of conditions where life

2321
02:02:52,620 --> 02:02:50,170
can be it's really through the lens of

2322
02:02:55,080 --> 02:02:52,630
what we know about Earth and that what

2323
02:02:58,560 --> 02:02:55,090
is actually in this thirteen point nine

2324
02:03:01,950 --> 02:02:58,570
billion light year universe right oh my

2325
02:03:04,740 --> 02:03:01,960
god to know everything that is in this

2326
02:03:08,009 --> 02:03:04,750
cosmos well that's what I would like to

2327
02:03:10,379 --> 02:03:08,019
understand would you have give me the

2328
02:03:12,450 --> 02:03:10,389
30-second answer would you have brought

2329
02:03:14,370 --> 02:03:12,460
that bacteria back to earth or would you

2330
02:03:17,549 --> 02:03:14,380
left it up there and tested it on the

2331
02:03:20,100 --> 02:03:17,559
ISS well depends on how they did it

2332
02:03:23,069 --> 02:03:20,110
because we have viruses and bacteria

2333
02:03:27,540 --> 02:03:23,079
that are extremely dangerous in very

2334
02:03:29,459 --> 02:03:27,550
high secured areas to study so if it's

2335
02:03:30,839 --> 02:03:29,469
handled correctly I can't believe

2336
02:03:33,629 --> 02:03:30,849
scientists would do it

2337
02:03:37,020 --> 02:03:33,639
sloppily then it's going to be in a

2338
02:03:39,959 --> 02:03:37,030
high-security facility to study and we

2339
02:03:42,569 --> 02:03:39,969
shouldn't worry but I understand the

2340
02:03:45,000 --> 02:03:42,579
question you're asking how dangerous

2341
02:03:47,160 --> 02:03:45,010
could it be if we've got something that

2342
02:03:49,799 --> 02:03:47,170
can grow in the ISS and we bring it to

2343
02:03:52,740 --> 02:03:49,809
earth and we didn't know how to cope

2344
02:03:55,290 --> 02:03:52,750
with it if it's spread however I really

2345
02:03:57,000 --> 02:03:55,300
think my first answer is the one that is

2346
02:03:59,850 --> 02:03:57,010
the Wonder

2347
02:04:03,089 --> 02:03:59,860
to think about we want to study

2348
02:04:06,750 --> 02:04:03,099
something that could survive in on the

2349
02:04:10,100 --> 02:04:06,760
surface of the ISS yeah but you and I

2350
02:04:13,500 --> 02:04:10,110
have both seen be a drama distrain okay

2351
02:04:15,750 --> 02:04:13,510
our guest tonight is Linda Moulton Howe

2352
02:04:18,390 --> 02:04:15,760
this is fade to black take a little

2353
02:04:21,479 --> 02:04:18,400
break and when we come back I've got to

2354
02:04:24,089 --> 02:04:21,489
talk about this artificial world that we

2355
02:04:26,710 --> 02:04:24,099
could possibly be living in we'll do all

2356
02:04:29,089 --> 02:04:26,720
of that next stay with us

2357
02:04:31,319 --> 02:04:29,099
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02:09:51,739 --> 02:09:47,340
to ask you directly this this artificial

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02:09:53,779 --> 02:09:51,749
reality the possibility of a binary one

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02:09:56,659 --> 02:09:53,789
in zero existence

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are you okay wait let's just say this

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02:10:01,339 --> 02:09:59,159
plays out the way that Silicon Valley's

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talking about right now are you okay

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02:10:07,609 --> 02:10:04,619
with it are you okay yes and I think

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02:10:12,109 --> 02:10:07,619
that the evidence is building to this

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02:10:16,580 --> 02:10:12,119
being a holographic universe and if that

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02:10:19,159 --> 02:10:16,590
question keeps coming up it's it does in

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02:10:22,879 --> 02:10:19,169
science journals and public conferences

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02:10:25,330 --> 02:10:22,889
and in the media and it was it was gosh

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02:10:29,600 --> 02:10:25,340
I think it was back in April of 2016

2471
02:10:31,939 --> 02:10:29,610
that there was a recode code computer

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02:10:34,580 --> 02:10:31,949
conference in Los Angeles and Elon Musk

2473
02:10:37,279 --> 02:10:34,590
was there and they asked him that

2474
02:10:40,250 --> 02:10:37,289
question are we living in a simulated

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02:10:44,060 --> 02:10:40,260
universe and he answered and I'm looking

2476
02:10:47,509 --> 02:10:44,070
right at his quote the odds we are in

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02:10:49,549 --> 02:10:47,519
base reality is one in billions and what

2478
02:10:53,089 --> 02:10:49,559
that means is he thinks that the odds

2479
02:10:56,240 --> 02:10:53,099
are hugely high against us being in some

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02:10:58,520 --> 02:10:56,250
kind of organic natural unique thing

2481
02:10:59,330 --> 02:10:58,530
garetty that this is in fact a simulated

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02:11:06,170 --> 02:10:59,340
universe

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02:11:09,710 --> 02:11:06,180
well that month of April in 2016 they

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02:11:12,830 --> 02:11:09,720
had an American Museum of Natural

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02:11:14,030 --> 02:11:12,840
History gathering in New York City and

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02:11:17,330 --> 02:11:14,040
it sold out

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02:11:19,760 --> 02:11:17,340
with this being the title to the public

2488
02:11:24,040 --> 02:11:19,770
to come and listen is the universe a

2489
02:11:26,840 --> 02:11:24,050
simulation and the moderator was

2490
02:11:29,300 --> 02:11:26,850
astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson and

2491
02:11:32,090 --> 02:11:29,310
one of the theoretical physicists in

2492
02:11:34,250 --> 02:11:32,100
that debate was James Gates he's PhD and

2493
02:11:36,280 --> 02:11:34,260
a professor of theoretical physics at

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02:11:39,500 --> 02:11:36,290
University of Maryland in College Park

2495
02:11:42,170 --> 02:11:39,510
and he researches supersymmetry and

2496
02:11:45,200 --> 02:11:42,180
super string theory and when he was

2497
02:11:48,920 --> 02:11:45,210
asked how could we discover whether we

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02:11:53,360 --> 02:11:48,930
live inside of a simulation which

2499
02:11:55,610 --> 02:11:53,370
remember the movie with Keanu Reeves are

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02:11:57,920 --> 02:11:55,620
we living inside of a matrix a matrix

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02:12:01,520 --> 02:11:57,930
that is established by something else

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02:12:05,750 --> 02:12:01,530
humans live in it but we are not aware

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02:12:08,690 --> 02:12:05,760
that we're in a computer simulation okay

2504
02:12:11,690 --> 02:12:08,700
so professor Gates said at this panel

2505
02:12:14,210 --> 02:12:11,700
thing quote trying to detect the

2506
02:12:18,950 --> 02:12:14,220
presence of codes in the laws that

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02:12:23,000 --> 02:12:18,960
describe physics and that when he was

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02:12:26,540 --> 02:12:23,010
working in supersymmetry equations he

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02:12:29,690 --> 02:12:26,550
was surprised to find that he was

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02:12:33,650 --> 02:12:29,700
finding what we would call the kind of

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02:12:35,990 --> 02:12:33,660
code that in when you use it you're

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02:12:37,550 --> 02:12:36,000
trying to remove errors and computer

2513
02:12:40,250 --> 02:12:37,560
transmissions to make the computer

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02:12:42,290 --> 02:12:40,260
browser's work better and the fact that

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02:12:44,900 --> 02:12:42,300
they could find something that would be

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02:12:45,790 --> 02:12:44,910
a recognizable code at the subatomic

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02:12:48,290 --> 02:12:45,800
level

2518
02:12:51,080 --> 02:12:48,300
reinforced the legitimacy of this

2519
02:12:54,830 --> 02:12:51,090
question at least asking could we be

2520
02:12:59,180 --> 02:12:54,840
living in a virtual reality a generated

2521
02:13:01,720 --> 02:12:59,190
computer network then there were in the

2522
02:13:04,550 --> 02:13:01,730
beginning of this year in February 2017

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02:13:06,590 --> 02:13:04,560
there were theoretical physicists who

2524
02:13:09,110 --> 02:13:06,600
did a publication in Physical Review

2525
02:13:13,280 --> 02:13:09,120
Letters and they use

2526
02:13:16,280 --> 02:13:13,290
terms substantial evidence that we are

2527
02:13:18,440 --> 02:13:16,290
living in a holographic universe and

2528
02:13:20,540 --> 02:13:18,450
they did this you're studying the

2529
02:13:25,940 --> 02:13:20,550
universe's cosmic microwave background

2530
02:13:30,140 --> 02:13:25,950
and the complexity of their work just

2531
02:13:33,740 --> 02:13:30,150
boiled down to that we are seeing more

2532
02:13:36,470 --> 02:13:33,750
and more papers that are establishing

2533
02:13:40,010 --> 02:13:36,480
more and more facets that we could be in

2534
02:13:46,910 --> 02:13:40,020
a holographic universe now let's go back

2535
02:13:49,040 --> 02:13:46,920
to around the year 1993 I believe a book

2536
02:13:52,450 --> 02:13:49,050
had come out called the holographic

2537
02:13:56,030 --> 02:13:52,460
universe by a man named Michael Talbot

2538
02:13:58,490 --> 02:13:56,040
it had a lot of buzz and I was at a

2539
02:14:01,670 --> 02:13:58,500
conference in I think it was Nebraska

2540
02:14:04,820 --> 02:14:01,680
and Budd Hopkins was a speaker there and

2541
02:14:07,040 --> 02:14:04,830
I was a speaker there and and people

2542
02:14:11,450 --> 02:14:07,050
were talking all about this the

2543
02:14:13,460 --> 02:14:11,460
holographic universe and when I went to

2544
02:14:15,440 --> 02:14:13,470
the airport it turned out I lived in

2545
02:14:19,030 --> 02:14:15,450
Philadelphia at the time so bud and I

2546
02:14:22,520 --> 02:14:19,040
were on the same plane and we got seats

2547
02:14:24,950 --> 02:14:22,530
together and we were talking about human

2548
02:14:28,460 --> 02:14:24,960
abductions and all of a sudden bud said

2549
02:14:32,360 --> 02:14:28,470
I want to tell you keep it secret

2550
02:14:34,940 --> 02:14:32,370
you got a promise you keep it secret he

2551
02:14:36,410 --> 02:14:34,950
said you know this book that everybody's

2552
02:14:40,160 --> 02:14:36,420
talking about the holographic universe

2553
02:14:42,890 --> 02:14:40,170
by Michael Talbot he says Michael Talbot

2554
02:14:45,290 --> 02:14:42,900
has been one of my human abduction cases

2555
02:14:50,960 --> 02:14:45,300
for the past two years no way

2556
02:14:55,190 --> 02:14:50,970
no way wait yeah and and he said that

2557
02:14:57,860 --> 02:14:55,200
Michael Talbot had told bud that his

2558
02:15:01,700 --> 02:14:57,870
book that was coming out and now it was

2559
02:15:06,170 --> 02:15:01,710
out the holographic universe was all

2560
02:15:08,420 --> 02:15:06,180
based on a telepathic download that he

2561
02:15:11,740 --> 02:15:08,430
got from some of the intelligences that

2562
02:15:15,920 --> 02:15:11,750
had been abducting him in his life and

2563
02:15:21,170 --> 02:15:15,930
that the holographic universe was the

2564
02:15:22,640 --> 02:15:21,180
real truth and I don't feel that there's

2565
02:15:24,830 --> 02:15:22,650
anything wrong in

2566
02:15:26,600 --> 02:15:24,840
talking about this this year and I

2567
02:15:29,899 --> 02:15:26,610
talked about it in a couple of

2568
02:15:33,530 --> 02:15:29,909
conferences last year because bud passed

2569
02:15:37,430 --> 02:15:33,540
a long time ago and strangely sadly

2570
02:15:41,030 --> 02:15:37,440
Michael Talbot died within I believe it

2571
02:15:44,180 --> 02:15:41,040
was a year of his book coming out so

2572
02:15:46,189 --> 02:15:44,190
that was back in the 1994 time period in

2573
02:15:48,169 --> 02:15:46,199
yet that book the holographic universe

2574
02:15:53,390 --> 02:15:48,179
by Michael Talbot I would recommend

2575
02:15:58,250 --> 02:15:53,400
everybody read it and then come to 2017

2576
02:16:02,209 --> 02:15:58,260
going into 2018 there is a physicist

2577
02:16:06,169 --> 02:16:02,219
that I have interviewed for series at

2578
02:16:08,720 --> 02:16:06,179
Earth files his name is Thomas Campbell

2579
02:16:11,120 --> 02:16:08,730
he had worked in army intelligence and a

2580
02:16:14,709 --> 02:16:11,130
lot of military stuff for in the Defense

2581
02:16:18,169 --> 02:16:14,719
Department when he was a younger man and

2582
02:16:22,399 --> 02:16:18,179
eventually as he kept evolving in his

2583
02:16:26,300 --> 02:16:22,409
own work he came to help set up the

2584
02:16:31,310 --> 02:16:26,310
hemi-sync technology for Robert Monroe

2585
02:16:35,480 --> 02:16:31,320
and Thomas Campbell worked with Robert

2586
02:16:38,839 --> 02:16:35,490
Monroe directly and was there working

2587
02:16:40,940 --> 02:16:38,849
with Monroe when he started doing the

2588
02:16:45,259 --> 02:16:40,950
books the first book journeys out of the

2589
02:16:48,500 --> 02:16:45,269
body and that brought this physicist

2590
02:16:51,350 --> 02:16:48,510
Thomas Campbell to have a whole new

2591
02:16:53,870 --> 02:16:51,360
relationship with the universe through

2592
02:16:58,100 --> 02:16:53,880
the work for Robert Monroe in which he

2593
02:17:02,179 --> 02:16:58,110
became convinced that we were not only

2594
02:17:06,560 --> 02:17:02,189
in a computer-generated universe but and

2595
02:17:11,330 --> 02:17:06,570
this is his mantra we are in a universe

2596
02:17:12,650 --> 02:17:11,340
that is an entropy reduction trainer for

2597
02:17:16,850 --> 02:17:12,660
souls

2598
02:17:19,009 --> 02:17:16,860
well now what does that mean entropy is

2599
02:17:24,980 --> 02:17:19,019
the condition of this universe in which

2600
02:17:28,940 --> 02:17:24,990
energy is always winding down the whole

2601
02:17:32,810 --> 02:17:28,950
process of energy in this universe is

2602
02:17:36,440 --> 02:17:32,820
going down towards zero so if you're in

2603
02:17:39,920 --> 02:17:36,450
if he looks at this as an entropy reduc

2604
02:17:44,870 --> 02:17:39,930
it means the universe that's projected

2605
02:17:47,870 --> 02:17:44,880
is has a working physical law of entropy

2606
02:17:51,080 --> 02:17:47,880
winding down energy so if something's

2607
02:17:55,670 --> 02:17:51,090
put in this universe to be a entropy

2608
02:17:59,420 --> 02:17:55,680
reduction trainer then it means that the

2609
02:18:03,530 --> 02:17:59,430
whole goal of souls would be to do

2610
02:18:07,030 --> 02:18:03,540
everything possible to counteract the

2611
02:18:10,760 --> 02:18:07,040
decline of energy to zero and that means

2612
02:18:13,550 --> 02:18:10,770
that you would emphasize the soul would

2613
02:18:17,330 --> 02:18:13,560
emphasize light instead of dark right

2614
02:18:22,570 --> 02:18:17,340
love instead of hate right life instead

2615
02:18:25,610 --> 02:18:22,580
of death right and that he honestly is

2616
02:18:28,459 --> 02:18:25,620
convinced that this universe has been

2617
02:18:30,050 --> 02:18:28,469
made specifically to Train Souls and

2618
02:18:33,290 --> 02:18:30,060
that there might be an infinite number

2619
02:18:36,020 --> 02:18:33,300
of other kinds of souls that are also

2620
02:18:41,750 --> 02:18:36,030
linked to other dimensions for a whole

2621
02:18:45,110 --> 02:18:41,760
other purposes and when you get to some

2622
02:18:49,790 --> 02:18:45,120
of the questions that I asked him in the

2623
02:18:53,150 --> 02:18:49,800
interview one of them was if it's a

2624
02:18:54,980 --> 02:18:53,160
projected universe as a hologram as I

2625
02:18:58,940 --> 02:18:54,990
understand it on earth like if you go to

2626
02:19:01,370 --> 02:18:58,950
Disneyworld and you see some of the

2627
02:19:03,470 --> 02:19:01,380
holograms where people can be dancing

2628
02:19:10,250 --> 02:19:03,480
and you see their costumes and it's all

2629
02:19:14,240 --> 02:19:10,260
projected light and he said for it to be

2630
02:19:18,020 --> 02:19:14,250
a holographic universe the projector has

2631
02:19:21,709 --> 02:19:18,030
to be outside this universe presumably

2632
02:19:24,290 --> 02:19:21,719
in another dimension which is a lot more

2633
02:19:25,970 --> 02:19:24,300
to think about that the projector cannot

2634
02:19:31,340 --> 02:19:25,980
be in the universe that's being

2635
02:19:34,910 --> 02:19:31,350
projected this is the hologram so he has

2636
02:19:41,230 --> 02:19:34,920
an idea that this universe was

2637
02:19:44,180 --> 02:19:41,240
essentially made from zeros and ones and

2638
02:19:45,770 --> 02:19:44,190
to be a binary system right from the

2639
02:19:49,070 --> 02:19:45,780
beginning and he doesn't think that a

2640
02:19:50,210 --> 02:19:49,080
projector is necessary however all of

2641
02:19:53,050 --> 02:19:50,220
the recent paper

2642
02:19:56,540 --> 02:19:53,060
that have been coming out in this year

2643
02:19:58,639 --> 02:19:56,550
discussing this the I would say that

2644
02:20:00,830 --> 02:19:58,649
they're moving more and more toward what

2645
02:20:03,110 --> 02:20:00,840
Michael Talbot wrote about that this is

2646
02:20:05,809 --> 02:20:03,120
a holographic universe which means it

2647
02:20:08,360 --> 02:20:05,819
has to be being projected and that

2648
02:20:11,769 --> 02:20:08,370
automatically leads the question if it's

2649
02:20:15,889 --> 02:20:11,779
projected if we are in a holographic

2650
02:20:18,170 --> 02:20:15,899
universe who is doing the projecting

2651
02:20:21,830 --> 02:20:18,180
from what dimension

2652
02:20:24,519 --> 02:20:21,840
well that moves this discussion into

2653
02:20:32,389 --> 02:20:24,529
something that I find personally

2654
02:20:36,019 --> 02:20:32,399
exciting to contemplate that we are our

2655
02:20:38,440 --> 02:20:36,029
whole emphasis in our living surface

2656
02:20:44,929 --> 02:20:38,450
life on Earth always seems to be matter

2657
02:20:47,150 --> 02:20:44,939
bodies sex surfaces when the whole point

2658
02:20:50,059 --> 02:20:47,160
of everything going on in this universe

2659
02:20:52,849 --> 02:20:50,069
even if there are Wars has to do with

2660
02:20:55,750 --> 02:20:52,859
whether the soul can evolve in order to

2661
02:21:00,979 --> 02:20:55,760
go into some other higher frequency and

2662
02:21:03,500 --> 02:21:00,989
to end up with life and light and love

2663
02:21:08,090 --> 02:21:03,510
instead of hate and war and so forth

2664
02:21:11,300 --> 02:21:08,100
well I asked him a question if he

2665
02:21:15,650 --> 02:21:11,310
thought that reincarnation could be

2666
02:21:18,380 --> 02:21:15,660
playing a very Machinery role in a

2667
02:21:20,960 --> 02:21:18,390
universe in which the if it were true

2668
02:21:23,540 --> 02:21:20,970
there was a entropy reduction trainer

2669
02:21:28,400 --> 02:21:23,550
for souls and he said this is a quote

2670
02:21:31,580 --> 02:21:28,410
from Campbell Thomas Campbell every time

2671
02:21:37,280 --> 02:21:31,590
you go through a lifetime you decrease

2672
02:21:41,030 --> 02:21:37,290
your entropy if you are successful or if

2673
02:21:45,040 --> 02:21:41,040
you increase it you devolve so the next

2674
02:21:50,330 --> 02:21:45,050
time you get to start where you stopped

2675
02:21:53,540 --> 02:21:50,340
wherever you made it in one go around in

2676
02:21:56,059 --> 02:21:53,550
this universe and you leave off your

2677
02:21:58,910 --> 02:21:56,069
soul spirit goes to another dimension

2678
02:22:01,610 --> 02:21:58,920
and then if it returns here it will pick

2679
02:22:04,070 --> 02:22:01,620
up where it left off and he said that's

2680
02:22:08,240 --> 02:22:04,080
why we go through these cycles and arm

2681
02:22:10,551 --> 02:22:08,250
to grow toward love and away from hate

2682
02:22:15,261 --> 02:22:10,561
and toward light away from darkness and

2683
02:22:17,120 --> 02:22:15,271
toward life away from death and then we

2684
02:22:19,880 --> 02:22:17,130
got into a very interesting discussion

2685
02:22:22,670 --> 02:22:19,890
when I asked him well where do you think

2686
02:22:25,360 --> 02:22:22,680
that the avatars of history fit into all

2687
02:22:29,000 --> 02:22:25,370
of this and that would be Buddha and

2688
02:22:31,400 --> 02:22:29,010
Krishna and Christ they came together

2689
02:22:38,750 --> 02:22:31,410
kind of in the time line within 500

2690
02:22:41,511 --> 02:22:38,760
years and then after the saga of Christ

2691
02:22:45,950 --> 02:22:41,521
you go about six hundred and thirty some

2692
02:22:49,220 --> 02:22:45,960
years and you come to another avatar in

2693
02:22:51,920 --> 02:22:49,230
the Middle East Mohammed and you get

2694
02:22:57,230 --> 02:22:51,930
another point of view that gets added to

2695
02:22:59,000 --> 02:22:57,240
this mix but what if missus where Thomas

2696
02:23:01,640 --> 02:22:59,010
Campbell and I went into this deep

2697
02:23:06,310 --> 02:23:01,650
discussion about the whole issue of

2698
02:23:10,520 --> 02:23:06,320
avatars if this is a fifth universe is

2699
02:23:13,130 --> 02:23:10,530
projected it was made and designed and

2700
02:23:17,270 --> 02:23:13,140
projected specifically as a trainer for

2701
02:23:20,630 --> 02:23:17,280
souls then where the projection is

2702
02:23:24,551 --> 02:23:20,640
whether it's in it tenth dimension or

2703
02:23:29,120 --> 02:23:24,561
wherever it is you could have

2704
02:23:32,720 --> 02:23:29,130
intelligences that come from that level

2705
02:23:35,420 --> 02:23:32,730
from that dimension that can be inserted

2706
02:23:37,280 --> 02:23:35,430
just like professors in a university

2707
02:23:41,530 --> 02:23:37,290
right they would come in here

2708
02:23:45,410 --> 02:23:41,540
specifically to help guide teach

2709
02:23:48,740 --> 02:23:45,420
neutralize whatever it is because

2710
02:23:53,000 --> 02:23:48,750
sometimes in this universe that is

2711
02:23:54,770 --> 02:23:53,010
trying to counteract entropy and entropy

2712
02:23:59,030 --> 02:23:54,780
is a pretty heavy-duty thing to

2713
02:24:02,930 --> 02:23:59,040
counteract right if that life almost on

2714
02:24:06,380 --> 02:24:02,940
the verge of beginning to get outside of

2715
02:24:09,140 --> 02:24:06,390
just survival might need some help and

2716
02:24:11,990 --> 02:24:09,150
that that's where the avatars on this

2717
02:24:15,070 --> 02:24:12,000
planet may have come in each with a

2718
02:24:18,020 --> 02:24:15,080
different flight take but if you go to

2719
02:24:20,200 --> 02:24:18,030
if you go to Christ and Buddha

2720
02:24:24,650 --> 02:24:20,210
and Krishna and you boiled down

2721
02:24:30,980 --> 02:24:24,660
essentially what they said it comes down

2722
02:24:32,900 --> 02:24:30,990
to you humans you're not understanding

2723
02:24:36,290 --> 02:24:32,910
what happens at the moment of death

2724
02:24:40,820 --> 02:24:36,300
and we're trying to tell you Buddha had

2725
02:24:42,890 --> 02:24:40,830
a lot to say about reincarnation and

2726
02:24:45,740 --> 02:24:42,900
that you would get off the reincarnation

2727
02:24:47,570 --> 02:24:45,750
wheel if you reached a point in soul

2728
02:24:49,970 --> 02:24:47,580
development where you didn't desire

2729
02:24:51,050 --> 02:24:49,980
anything that was his contribution

2730
02:24:55,370 --> 02:24:51,060
that's right

2731
02:24:58,280 --> 02:24:55,380
if you went to Krishna in India where

2732
02:25:02,000 --> 02:24:58,290
the Vimanas were the silver discs that

2733
02:25:04,790 --> 02:25:02,010
were drawn and painted and seemed to be

2734
02:25:07,760 --> 02:25:04,800
very real at one time and you boiled

2735
02:25:10,880 --> 02:25:07,770
down what he said his communication was

2736
02:25:12,890 --> 02:25:10,890
the universe was teeming with life that

2737
02:25:17,450 --> 02:25:12,900
he had come from another part of the

2738
02:25:20,720 --> 02:25:17,460
universe and again it was stressing that

2739
02:25:23,840 --> 02:25:20,730
souls recycle in reincarnation if you

2740
02:25:26,690 --> 02:25:23,850
come to Christ you could say that

2741
02:25:33,200 --> 02:25:26,700
essentially this was a being who looked

2742
02:25:37,760 --> 02:25:33,210
at some people and said I will die in

2743
02:25:39,860 --> 02:25:37,770
front of you and I will return and I

2744
02:25:44,030 --> 02:25:39,870
will walk among you so you will

2745
02:25:48,500 --> 02:25:44,040
understand that the moment of death is a

2746
02:25:52,220 --> 02:25:48,510
transition some of you will recognize me

2747
02:25:58,670 --> 02:25:52,230
after that transition but most did not

2748
02:26:01,790 --> 02:25:58,680
and the the whole key there being in all

2749
02:26:06,230 --> 02:26:01,800
three they were talking about life after

2750
02:26:09,410 --> 02:26:06,240
death in a cycle so in the Michael

2751
02:26:13,640 --> 02:26:09,420
Talbot book in the whole idea of Thomas

2752
02:26:18,470 --> 02:26:13,650
Campbell they there's a theme and the

2753
02:26:21,520 --> 02:26:18,480
theme is that the matter containers that

2754
02:26:25,010 --> 02:26:21,530
we and other life forms are in are just

2755
02:26:27,290 --> 02:26:25,020
carrying around the soul spirit to have

2756
02:26:30,880 --> 02:26:27,300
the interactions to try to counteract

2757
02:26:32,729 --> 02:26:30,890
entropy to try to evolve

2758
02:26:35,290 --> 02:26:32,739
and we're on a planet where

2759
02:26:37,330 --> 02:26:35,300
unfortunately the container body seems

2760
02:26:40,719 --> 02:26:37,340
to get most of the attention rather than

2761
02:26:43,330 --> 02:26:40,729
the soul but maybe part of this

2762
02:26:44,889 --> 02:26:43,340
revolutionary time if we could get to

2763
02:26:46,840 --> 02:26:44,899
that announcement that we're not alone

2764
02:26:51,130 --> 02:26:46,850
in this universe and that there is a

2765
02:26:54,010 --> 02:26:51,140
tremendous amount to explore and that it

2766
02:26:58,389 --> 02:26:54,020
can be exciting and dangerous and all of

2767
02:27:00,969 --> 02:26:58,399
those things but that to truly evolve if

2768
02:27:04,840 --> 02:27:00,979
we're going to get past this existential

2769
02:27:06,699 --> 02:27:04,850
threat of ourselves an existential

2770
02:27:09,369 --> 02:27:06,709
threat that's being rubbed in our faces

2771
02:27:11,889 --> 02:27:09,379
every day now about what could be a

2772
02:27:16,869 --> 02:27:11,899
threat from North Korea in terms of some

2773
02:27:19,380 --> 02:27:16,879
sort of a nuclear explosion if we get

2774
02:27:26,130 --> 02:27:19,390
past all of that

2775
02:27:28,960 --> 02:27:26,140
what a I think thrilling exhilarating

2776
02:27:32,409 --> 02:27:28,970
contemplation that we could get to a

2777
02:27:36,059 --> 02:27:32,419
point where we could move point to point

2778
02:27:39,429 --> 02:27:36,069
in this universe not Euclidean geometry

2779
02:27:42,750 --> 02:27:39,439
in other words we we wouldn't have to be

2780
02:27:46,000 --> 02:27:42,760
in spaceships going for months or years

2781
02:27:48,969 --> 02:27:46,010
anywhere that we would learn what the

2782
02:27:52,899 --> 02:27:48,979
nonhumans that come here seem to have

2783
02:27:56,290 --> 02:27:52,909
already refined in spades that they can

2784
02:27:59,590 --> 02:27:56,300
bend space and time and move point to

2785
02:28:01,420 --> 02:27:59,600
point to this universe and that when

2786
02:28:05,170 --> 02:28:01,430
people in science fiction have written

2787
02:28:09,609 --> 02:28:05,180
about you have a station that you can go

2788
02:28:12,340 --> 02:28:09,619
to and it's essentially like you put in

2789
02:28:15,099 --> 02:28:12,350
the math of the coordinates in the

2790
02:28:17,199 --> 02:28:15,109
universe where you want to be and it has

2791
02:28:19,300 --> 02:28:17,209
to do with resonance and frequency and

2792
02:28:22,119 --> 02:28:19,310
you move through something that is like

2793
02:28:25,179 --> 02:28:22,129
a hallway to a door and you open the

2794
02:28:27,939 --> 02:28:25,189
door and where you step over you could

2795
02:28:33,369 --> 02:28:27,949
be five billion light-years from where

2796
02:28:36,519 --> 02:28:33,379
you were in a whole new place and that

2797
02:28:40,330 --> 02:28:36,529
when I say these words that still today

2798
02:28:42,819 --> 02:28:40,340
to humans are science fiction a strong

2799
02:28:44,680 --> 02:28:42,829
part of me is convinced from some

2800
02:28:49,291 --> 02:28:44,690
physicists I've talked to confidential

2801
02:28:52,480 --> 02:28:49,301
that that is possible in the physics

2802
02:28:56,400 --> 02:28:52,490
that we're moving toward if we survive

2803
02:28:59,320 --> 02:28:56,410
ourselves on earth I want to thank you

2804
02:29:01,421 --> 02:28:59,330
for for spending this time with us and

2805
02:29:04,240 --> 02:29:01,431
you know in this holiday season but

2806
02:29:08,140 --> 02:29:04,250
before I let you go Linda I've gotta ask

2807
02:29:14,171 --> 02:29:08,150
I need some secret info okay

2808
02:29:17,411 --> 02:29:14,181
say yes Jimmy for you anything come on I

2809
02:29:21,161 --> 02:29:17,421
would never is this I was so excited to

2810
02:29:24,190 --> 02:29:21,171
hear about a Sony doing this series on

2811
02:29:27,400 --> 02:29:24,200
Rendlesham so who's playing john

2812
02:29:29,081 --> 02:29:27,410
burroughs well that is a good and

2813
02:29:32,770 --> 02:29:29,091
interesting question but you know that

2814
02:29:35,831 --> 02:29:32,780
was a little bit unfair they are they

2815
02:29:40,301 --> 02:29:35,841
dangled this it made it sound like it

2816
02:29:42,371 --> 02:29:40,311
was already ago but this is a concept at

2817
02:29:44,890 --> 02:29:42,381
this point and they're talking about

2818
02:29:49,180 --> 02:29:44,900
that whatever they're going to do the

2819
02:29:52,541 --> 02:29:49,190
actual airing would not be before 2019

2820
02:29:56,171 --> 02:29:52,551
so we're at a very early stage and you

2821
02:29:58,631 --> 02:29:56,181
know Hollywood does this the BBC can do

2822
02:30:00,700 --> 02:29:58,641
this this is where there will be

2823
02:30:03,551 --> 02:30:00,710
something in the media and they're

2824
02:30:05,801 --> 02:30:03,561
talking about how they're going to do

2825
02:30:08,740 --> 02:30:05,811
this concept or this book or this story

2826
02:30:11,230 --> 02:30:08,750
and then they see what kind of reaction

2827
02:30:13,240 --> 02:30:11,240
they get that helps maybe raise the

2828
02:30:15,131 --> 02:30:13,250
funds that they need to actually do the

2829
02:30:18,430 --> 02:30:15,141
production and something like that seems

2830
02:30:22,480 --> 02:30:18,440
to have happen around this and I really

2831
02:30:24,341 --> 02:30:22,490
hope that John and I and others that

2832
02:30:27,911 --> 02:30:24,351
will be involved because I think if

2833
02:30:30,070 --> 02:30:27,921
they're going to do a production it's I

2834
02:30:32,411 --> 02:30:30,080
think it's called leaven our production

2835
02:30:34,030 --> 02:30:32,421
right they should be they should be

2836
02:30:36,791 --> 02:30:34,040
working with the people who actually

2837
02:30:39,940 --> 02:30:36,801
have the real experience and the real

2838
02:30:41,171 --> 02:30:39,950
data so I hope this is going to be a

2839
02:30:44,801 --> 02:30:41,181
production that will go in that

2840
02:30:50,020 --> 02:30:44,811
direction as opposed to just sigh fiying

2841
02:30:52,270 --> 02:30:50,030
a concept and frankly in all of the

2842
02:30:57,220 --> 02:30:52,280
production work that I have done for so

2843
02:30:57,950 --> 02:30:57,230
long the real mystery the real world the

2844
02:31:01,070 --> 02:30:57,960
real

2845
02:31:04,340 --> 02:31:01,080
universe is so far more interesting than

2846
02:31:05,660 --> 02:31:04,350
doing it a science-fiction have they are

2847
02:31:08,060 --> 02:31:05,670
you saying that they haven't even

2848
02:31:10,580 --> 02:31:08,070
approached any of the players like

2849
02:31:13,969 --> 02:31:10,590
yourself or burrows or Penniston for for

2850
02:31:16,760 --> 02:31:13,979
consulting on this I don't think so

2851
02:31:18,860 --> 02:31:16,770
really John yeah and that's why I'm

2852
02:31:21,469 --> 02:31:18,870
saying it's early and it was like

2853
02:31:25,340 --> 02:31:21,479
something that was dangled and if they

2854
02:31:26,810 --> 02:31:25,350
actually have every thing in place and

2855
02:31:29,660 --> 02:31:26,820
that they've actually started production

2856
02:31:32,570 --> 02:31:29,670
that's the problem why would they do

2857
02:31:35,480 --> 02:31:32,580
that without having the very people who

2858
02:31:37,550 --> 02:31:35,490
have all of the information involved it

2859
02:31:47,780 --> 02:31:37,560
doesn't make sense to me I'm all bummed

2860
02:31:50,690 --> 02:31:47,790
I wanted to go read for a part go ahead

2861
02:31:53,570 --> 02:31:50,700
go ahead good oh I just started to say

2862
02:31:56,540 --> 02:31:53,580
that when it comes to the not to the

2863
02:31:59,780 --> 02:31:56,550
science fiction versus the nonfiction I

2864
02:32:03,560 --> 02:31:59,790
know that Hollywood and various

2865
02:32:07,070 --> 02:32:03,570
producers everything has to be sort of

2866
02:32:11,990 --> 02:32:07,080
they think jazzed up to get audiences

2867
02:32:16,520 --> 02:32:12,000
into the TV or into theaters and the I

2868
02:32:19,340 --> 02:32:16,530
saw that happen on a feature film that

2869
02:32:24,070 --> 02:32:19,350
was made about the animal mutilations

2870
02:32:27,500 --> 02:32:24,080
going back to around the early 1980s and

2871
02:32:31,490 --> 02:32:27,510
it was a film called endangered species

2872
02:32:33,650 --> 02:32:31,500
and I went to see it and it was so bad

2873
02:32:36,680 --> 02:32:33,660
in the respect that they didn't even

2874
02:32:38,090 --> 02:32:36,690
show the eerie bloodless trackless

2875
02:32:40,760 --> 02:32:38,100
animal mutilations

2876
02:32:45,140 --> 02:32:40,770
they showed Gore and I thought at that

2877
02:32:47,300 --> 02:32:45,150
time why is it that people who are in

2878
02:32:50,510 --> 02:32:47,310
Hollywood in other places why is it that

2879
02:32:54,110 --> 02:32:50,520
they can't literally take the real facts

2880
02:32:57,290 --> 02:32:54,120
of phenomena and mystery that is the

2881
02:33:00,230 --> 02:32:57,300
part that is fascinating and I think

2882
02:33:03,440 --> 02:33:00,240
that if they did if they could do

2883
02:33:05,540 --> 02:33:03,450
something that really went to the facts

2884
02:33:07,850 --> 02:33:05,550
as we know them about what happened in

2885
02:33:11,479 --> 02:33:07,860
Rendlesham forest and is constantly

2886
02:33:14,420 --> 02:33:11,489
evolving to this day Jimmy that's one

2887
02:33:18,979 --> 02:33:14,430
the startling things so many moving

2888
02:33:21,469 --> 02:33:18,989
parts for December 26 to 28 and perhaps

2889
02:33:25,010 --> 02:33:21,479
even a day or two after there are so

2890
02:33:27,559 --> 02:33:25,020
many moving parts of so many people and

2891
02:33:30,199 --> 02:33:27,569
the fact that John burrows cannot

2892
02:33:32,019 --> 02:33:30,209
remember for example in December 26 what

2893
02:33:34,489 --> 02:33:32,029
happened after the blinding white light

2894
02:33:37,849 --> 02:33:34,499
that they had Jim Penniston and John

2895
02:33:40,069 --> 02:33:37,859
both remembered and that John is the

2896
02:33:42,469 --> 02:33:40,079
only person who was engulfed in light

2897
02:33:45,949 --> 02:33:42,479
twice on two nights and seen by

2898
02:33:50,989 --> 02:33:45,959
witnesses and he cannot remember the

2899
02:33:53,960 --> 02:33:50,999
details that to me is a part of the

2900
02:33:57,859 --> 02:33:53,970
phenomena that we should explore even

2901
02:34:00,679 --> 02:33:57,869
more and that's what a lot of people

2902
02:34:03,639 --> 02:34:00,689
don't have the patience for and that's

2903
02:34:07,510 --> 02:34:03,649
why you sometimes get fiction that

2904
02:34:11,359 --> 02:34:07,520
overwhelms I think the true and real

2905
02:34:13,429 --> 02:34:11,369
mystery nature of the nonfiction so I

2906
02:34:16,819 --> 02:34:13,439
don't know what will happen but let's

2907
02:34:20,090 --> 02:34:16,829
hope that they do try to tell as much of

2908
02:34:23,869 --> 02:34:20,100
the truth as is knowable for whatever

2909
02:34:25,760 --> 02:34:23,879
they're going to broadcast you know 2017

2910
02:34:27,880 --> 02:34:25,770
was extraordinary on on so many

2911
02:34:30,109 --> 02:34:27,890
different fronts I could sit here name

2912
02:34:33,979 --> 02:34:30,119
different things that have happened and

2913
02:34:37,779 --> 02:34:33,989
so forth but as exciting as it has been

2914
02:34:43,880 --> 02:34:37,789
what do you what do you expect to see in

2915
02:34:46,159 --> 02:34:43,890
2018 that is a show that John Burroughs

2916
02:34:50,239 --> 02:34:46,169
and I are going to do with Grant Cameron

2917
02:34:53,210 --> 02:34:50,249
on December 14th on phenomena radio kgr

2918
02:34:56,229 --> 02:34:53,220
a that's exactly our question and grant

2919
02:34:59,119 --> 02:34:56,239
who has kept his fingers on the pulse of

2920
02:35:01,099 --> 02:34:59,129
everyone from Tom DeLonge to other

2921
02:35:03,079 --> 02:35:01,109
people working on the same issue of

2922
02:35:05,300 --> 02:35:03,089
we're not alone in this universe

2923
02:35:07,909 --> 02:35:05,310
and we need to get this headline around

2924
02:35:11,779 --> 02:35:07,919
the world we're going to discuss that

2925
02:35:15,229 --> 02:35:11,789
for two hours on phenomenon on a week

2926
02:35:18,349 --> 02:35:15,239
from this Thursday so I hope everybody

2927
02:35:21,109 --> 02:35:18,359
will tune in and I'm deflecting because

2928
02:35:23,899 --> 02:35:21,119
I think that that will be what grants

2929
02:35:24,631 --> 02:35:23,909
insights are will be worth paying

2930
02:35:27,661 --> 02:35:24,641
attention

2931
02:35:32,220 --> 02:35:27,671
- because none of us know for sure but

2932
02:35:36,150 --> 02:35:32,230
every one of us is expecting maybe with

2933
02:35:40,591 --> 02:35:36,160
hope but expecting that 2018 will be the

2934
02:35:43,711 --> 02:35:40,601
pivot that we are not alone in this

2935
02:35:46,501 --> 02:35:43,721
universe and Jimmy when that happens we

2936
02:35:48,480 --> 02:35:46,511
have to do another show together Linda

2937
02:35:51,690 --> 02:35:48,490
thank you so much

2938
02:35:55,020 --> 02:35:51,700
okay and be safe out there I wanted to

2939
02:35:57,541 --> 02:35:55,030
ask you one yeah I wanted to ask you

2940
02:36:01,201 --> 02:35:57,551
this earlier we're gonna we're going to

2941
02:36:03,211 --> 02:36:01,211
depart with this you had brought up the

2942
02:36:07,381 --> 02:36:03,221
you know the mirror and Alice in

2943
02:36:10,201 --> 02:36:07,391
Wonderland what have you ever when you

2944
02:36:13,350 --> 02:36:10,211
go back to Paul bennewitz or any of the

2945
02:36:15,841 --> 02:36:13,360
craziness back then through to today

2946
02:36:18,060 --> 02:36:15,851
have you ever you know questioned

2947
02:36:20,640 --> 02:36:18,070
yourself too as well you know that whole

2948
02:36:25,171 --> 02:36:20,650
Alice in Wonderland thing that maybe you

2949
02:36:29,281 --> 02:36:25,181
took it a step too far or no because

2950
02:36:32,911 --> 02:36:29,291
every step of my long journey in all of

2951
02:36:35,310 --> 02:36:32,921
this has always been going to forensic

2952
02:36:39,411 --> 02:36:35,320
evidence right going out and gathering

2953
02:36:42,781 --> 02:36:39,421
tissue gathering soil gathering plants

2954
02:36:45,421 --> 02:36:42,791
interviewing firsthand eyewitnesses I

2955
02:36:48,781 --> 02:36:45,431
really do have the heart and mind of a

2956
02:36:51,810 --> 02:36:48,791
journalist and they the thing I respect

2957
02:36:54,001 --> 02:36:51,820
and what I'm always going after is the

2958
02:36:58,591 --> 02:36:54,011
pressure of fact always have and when

2959
02:37:01,680 --> 02:36:58,601
you are in that mode all of the time no

2960
02:37:04,440 --> 02:37:01,690
matter what the drama is there's

2961
02:37:08,761 --> 02:37:04,450
something in me that always rebalances

2962
02:37:12,741 --> 02:37:08,771
back to the left brain side of analysis

2963
02:37:15,690 --> 02:37:12,751
and that I think curiosity keep

2964
02:37:18,991 --> 02:37:15,700
curiosity but keep trying to establish

2965
02:37:22,230 --> 02:37:19,001
hard forensic facts it will keep you

2966
02:37:25,640 --> 02:37:22,240
level it keeps you going you will find

2967
02:37:28,621 --> 02:37:25,650
data that is quite mysterious and

2968
02:37:30,690 --> 02:37:28,631
anybody who has really seriously studied

2969
02:37:35,791 --> 02:37:30,700
any of the animal mutilations can tell

2970
02:37:38,189 --> 02:37:35,801
you that and then you go into the deep

2971
02:37:40,109 --> 02:37:38,199
profound mystery

2972
02:37:43,170 --> 02:37:40,119
what is really happening in the human

2973
02:37:45,599 --> 02:37:43,180
abduction and that is like diving into

2974
02:37:48,510 --> 02:37:45,609
an ocean that has no bottom and that

2975
02:37:51,599 --> 02:37:48,520
then says to me that the human abduction

2976
02:37:54,769 --> 02:37:51,609
is a phenomena that is interacting with

2977
02:37:58,619 --> 02:37:54,779
the alien presence but that the reasons

2978
02:38:02,010 --> 02:37:58,629
that the alien presence interacts with

2979
02:38:06,409 --> 02:38:02,020
human beings with holograms real

2980
02:38:12,869 --> 02:38:06,419
Holograms in rooms with illusions with

2981
02:38:16,459 --> 02:38:12,879
deception with all kinds of ways that in

2982
02:38:20,189 --> 02:38:16,469
a sense are always like testing humans

2983
02:38:22,729 --> 02:38:20,199
probing humans monitoring humans that

2984
02:38:27,420 --> 02:38:22,739
leave me thinking now as we move into

2985
02:38:29,880 --> 02:38:27,430
2018 that a truer concept about the

2986
02:38:33,269 --> 02:38:29,890
relationship of Homo Sapien on this

2987
02:38:37,289 --> 02:38:33,279
planet to an alien presence is that we

2988
02:38:42,090 --> 02:38:37,299
are closer to that which is on the petri

2989
02:38:45,300 --> 02:38:42,100
dish and I am trying to understand what

2990
02:38:50,760 --> 02:38:45,310
is the eye that is looking down to the

2991
02:38:53,849 --> 02:38:50,770
microscope on us what does it want is it

2992
02:38:56,069 --> 02:38:53,859
the projector in another dimension that

2993
02:39:00,029 --> 02:38:56,079
is projecting a three-dimensional

2994
02:39:03,719 --> 02:39:00,039
hologram that is our universe and if

2995
02:39:06,659 --> 02:39:03,729
that is true then how big does this

2996
02:39:09,630 --> 02:39:06,669
chess game go and those are the

2997
02:39:11,699 --> 02:39:09,640
questions that stimulate me excite me I

2998
02:39:14,309 --> 02:39:11,709
don't find anything in this that's

2999
02:39:18,719 --> 02:39:14,319
frightening and when when Buchanan says

3000
02:39:22,130 --> 02:39:18,729
that they we have allies that I hang on

3001
02:39:26,189 --> 02:39:22,140
to because on earth they're our enemies

3002
02:39:29,459 --> 02:39:26,199
they're our enemies and in in human

3003
02:39:32,249 --> 02:39:29,469
existence so to learn that there might

3004
02:39:34,170 --> 02:39:32,259
be enemies to certain kinds of life in

3005
02:39:37,380 --> 02:39:34,180
the universe it doesn't scare me

3006
02:39:41,249 --> 02:39:37,390
it doesn't depress me it excites me to

3007
02:39:44,069 --> 02:39:41,259
want to understand it all at the biggest

3008
02:39:46,019 --> 02:39:44,079
level and I can't imagine what could be

3009
02:39:48,449 --> 02:39:46,029
more wonderful and maybe that's part of

3010
02:39:51,779 --> 02:39:48,459
the problem that you have to go around

3011
02:39:55,289 --> 02:39:51,789
in various cycles in order

3012
02:39:59,729 --> 02:39:55,299
to learn the whole thing because it's so

3013
02:40:01,829 --> 02:39:59,739
big but my god to live with the kind of

3014
02:40:03,719 --> 02:40:01,839
excitement and explore the questions

3015
02:40:05,249 --> 02:40:03,729
that we've talked about tonight I can't

3016
02:40:08,309 --> 02:40:05,259
imagine doing anything else

3017
02:40:10,549 --> 02:40:08,319
yeah you know and when we look at things

3018
02:40:13,609 --> 02:40:10,559
in its totality not only with this

3019
02:40:17,639 --> 02:40:13,619
bacteria on you know the ISS or

3020
02:40:21,119 --> 02:40:17,649
exoplanets or alpha centauri and and

3021
02:40:24,479 --> 02:40:21,129
fast radio bursts I mean these are crazy

3022
02:40:26,519 --> 02:40:24,489
exciting times and then this this new

3023
02:40:29,039 --> 02:40:26,529
chamber at the Great Pyramid right they

3024
02:40:31,589 --> 02:40:29,049
here what what is going on with that and

3025
02:40:34,979 --> 02:40:31,599
and you throw in everything else it

3026
02:40:38,609 --> 02:40:34,989
seems like there is something about to

3027
02:40:44,579 --> 02:40:38,619
blow up the Big B could be right around

3028
02:40:48,209 --> 02:40:44,589
the corner well if it no matter which

3029
02:40:51,149 --> 02:40:48,219
way it goes if you look back through the

3030
02:40:54,599 --> 02:40:51,159
lens of the avatars of history right it

3031
02:40:56,339 --> 02:40:54,609
is as if the avatars have always in

3032
02:41:00,359 --> 02:40:56,349
different ways that always said the same

3033
02:41:05,669 --> 02:41:00,369
thing do not be afraid of death

3034
02:41:08,510 --> 02:41:05,679
it is only part of a cycle and that the

3035
02:41:12,679 --> 02:41:08,520
cycle has to do with getting the soul

3036
02:41:14,549 --> 02:41:12,689
beyond concentration on the matter body

3037
02:41:17,909 --> 02:41:14,559
into something else

3038
02:41:21,839 --> 02:41:17,919
that is beyond our comprehension but I

3039
02:41:24,349 --> 02:41:21,849
think is worth trying to keep

3040
02:41:27,449 --> 02:41:24,359
understanding in this life with the

3041
02:41:31,589 --> 02:41:27,459
confidence that the cycle goes on and

3042
02:41:35,339 --> 02:41:31,599
that we are we are just scratching the

3043
02:41:38,369 --> 02:41:35,349
tip of the iceberg of where we are on

3044
02:41:40,229 --> 02:41:38,379
earth now in comparison to where we

3045
02:41:44,549 --> 02:41:40,239
would be in a hundred years if we

3046
02:41:53,639 --> 02:41:44,559
survived ourselves and we will and Linda

3047
02:41:55,260 --> 02:41:53,649
survived Christmas okay absolutely and

3048
02:41:56,969 --> 02:41:55,270
we'll see you at the conscious life Expo

3049
02:42:01,019 --> 02:41:56,979
in just two short months thank you so

3050
02:42:04,920 --> 02:42:01,029
much Linda all right later later Linda

3051
02:42:07,740 --> 02:42:04,930
Moulton Howe everybody again earthfiles

3052
02:42:10,860 --> 02:42:07,750
dot-com start your day off right there

3053
02:42:14,429 --> 02:42:10,870
there is more knowledge on earth files

3054
02:42:16,530 --> 02:42:14,439
than I you know and I go there when I

3055
02:42:18,750 --> 02:42:16,540
it's funny I've told Linda this way too

3056
02:42:22,559 --> 02:42:18,760
many times I go to earth files when I

3057
02:42:24,929 --> 02:42:22,569
need material and I do just that Linda

3058
02:42:27,000 --> 02:42:24,939
Moulton Howe thank you so much a true

3059
02:42:28,620 --> 02:42:27,010
national treasure this is fade to black

3060
02:42:31,170 --> 02:42:28,630
I'm gonna take a quick break right here

3061
02:42:33,780 --> 02:42:31,180
you can follow Linda at earthfiles on

3062
02:42:35,010 --> 02:42:33,790
Twitter you can follow me at che Church

3063
02:42:37,620 --> 02:42:35,020
radio I'm gonna take a break come back

3064
02:42:40,120 --> 02:42:37,630
answer some phone calls and some other

3065
02:43:00,550 --> 02:42:40,130
things I'll be right back

3066
02:43:08,560 --> 02:43:03,560
box here and you are listening to my boy

3067
02:43:15,450 --> 02:43:12,500
this my popular opinion reading a book

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but listening to Jimmy Church will so

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3116
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getting old has its perks but remember

3117
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haunting you and you just felt better

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well we can't turn back the clocks and

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go back 10 or 15 years but you can start

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will feel when your family and friends

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are asking you what you did to look so

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and feeling better learn more in order

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born this way k GRA radio.com this is KJ

3142
02:46:46,100 --> 02:46:57,700
[Music]

3143
02:47:08,300 --> 02:47:03,230
welcome back fade to black what's going

3144
02:47:11,150 --> 02:47:08,310
on above the bunker we'll find out crazy

3145
02:47:14,840 --> 02:47:11,160
day here today glad we got through the

3146
02:47:16,820 --> 02:47:14,850
show and and these fires and what's

3147
02:47:18,620 --> 02:47:16,830
going on here in Southern California and

3148
02:47:21,380 --> 02:47:18,630
our thoughts are with everybody out

3149
02:47:25,430 --> 02:47:21,390
there who has lost their homes this is

3150
02:47:28,060 --> 02:47:25,440
the holidays and and all of the pets and

3151
02:47:31,220 --> 02:47:28,070
the animals and things you know it's a

3152
02:47:33,950 --> 02:47:31,230
it's absolutely crazy here right now and

3153
02:47:35,990 --> 02:47:33,960
so there you go I do want to thank Linda

3154
02:47:39,770 --> 02:47:36,000
Moulton Howe for coming in tonight a

3155
02:47:41,990 --> 02:47:39,780
great great great conversation I've got

3156
02:47:46,910 --> 02:47:42,000
a few calls on hold I will get to those

3157
02:47:50,660 --> 02:47:46,920
in a second and but I wanted to kind of

3158
02:47:52,190 --> 02:47:50,670
to go back and reflect on a couple of

3159
02:47:55,300 --> 02:47:52,200
things that we just talked about here

3160
02:47:58,250 --> 02:47:55,310
and one of them is this and I have

3161
02:48:00,261 --> 02:47:58,260
thought about this more and more lately

3162
02:48:02,810 --> 02:48:00,271
I mentioned this a couple of weeks ago

3163
02:48:06,050 --> 02:48:02,820
on the show Rita and I were having a

3164
02:48:08,480 --> 02:48:06,060
conversation one night and the this

3165
02:48:11,080 --> 02:48:08,490
thought came out and I mentioned it with

3166
02:48:16,370 --> 02:48:11,090
Richard Dolan and that is seriously

3167
02:48:17,990 --> 02:48:16,380
planet Earth has got to be us hear us

3168
02:48:22,160 --> 02:48:18,000
earthlings you know we're the

3169
02:48:26,050 --> 02:48:22,170
hillbillies of the universe we have to

3170
02:48:30,920 --> 02:48:26,060
be and and and look at it like this

3171
02:48:33,200 --> 02:48:30,930
seriously let's say you know you're et

3172
02:48:36,110 --> 02:48:33,210
and you're out there and you know you're

3173
02:48:40,520 --> 02:48:36,120
cruising around and and your boss comes

3174
02:48:43,400 --> 02:48:40,530
in and says okay dude we're gonna send

3175
02:48:45,710 --> 02:48:43,410
you on a Scout mission we're gonna you

3176
02:48:47,840 --> 02:48:45,720
know send you over to earth and check up

3177
02:48:52,100 --> 02:48:47,850
on things over there and and you would

3178
02:48:56,320 --> 02:48:52,110
be like man why why why do I have to go

3179
02:48:58,880 --> 02:48:56,330
to earth there's nothing there right

3180
02:49:01,580 --> 02:48:58,890
Earthlings haven't done anything yet

3181
02:49:04,011 --> 02:49:01,590
they haven't there's no interstellar or

3182
02:49:07,761 --> 02:49:04,021
anything they you know they barely made

3183
02:49:09,679 --> 02:49:07,771
it to the moon you know there's just

3184
02:49:13,310 --> 02:49:09,689
nothing going what would

3185
02:49:16,219 --> 02:49:13,320
why me why do I have to go it's that's

3186
02:49:18,920 --> 02:49:16,229
probably the conversation you know and

3187
02:49:21,980 --> 02:49:18,930
and so you know dude you know gets on

3188
02:49:25,400 --> 02:49:21,990
his little ship and he has to do his

3189
02:49:27,469 --> 02:49:25,410
Scout mission right and he comes to

3190
02:49:32,690 --> 02:49:27,479
earth and he lands he's walking around

3191
02:49:35,300 --> 02:49:32,700
and you know comes up to to to see some

3192
02:49:37,730 --> 02:49:35,310
some physicist some scientist or

3193
02:49:39,830 --> 02:49:37,740
whatever they're walking around and and

3194
02:49:41,900 --> 02:49:39,840
he's like you know and check this out

3195
02:49:43,820 --> 02:49:41,910
man you know our technology you know

3196
02:49:46,730 --> 02:49:43,830
we've got we've got cell phones we've

3197
02:49:49,820 --> 02:49:46,740
got the Internet we've you know we were

3198
02:49:52,010 --> 02:49:49,830
doing that you know and and et would

3199
02:49:55,429 --> 02:49:52,020
just be like man it's just go away

3200
02:49:58,730 --> 02:49:55,439
little man I have nothing to discuss

3201
02:50:02,710 --> 02:49:58,740
with you but but we've we've built

3202
02:50:06,410 --> 02:50:02,720
things have you seen our space shuttle

3203
02:50:10,670 --> 02:50:06,420
you know a go away little man you're

3204
02:50:14,120 --> 02:50:10,680
bothering me think about that

3205
02:50:21,139 --> 02:50:14,130
conversation with et what would we

3206
02:50:25,639 --> 02:50:21,149
impress et with what is it some total

3207
02:50:29,120 --> 02:50:25,649
light being intelligent thing that is

3208
02:50:32,600 --> 02:50:29,130
here visiting us what is it that we

3209
02:50:38,360 --> 02:50:32,610
could impress them with what have we

3210
02:50:41,570 --> 02:50:38,370
done right we light firecrackers and and

3211
02:50:44,450 --> 02:50:41,580
and and leave the planet you know okay

3212
02:50:47,480 --> 02:50:44,460
we've got satellites you know what is it

3213
02:50:50,060 --> 02:50:47,490
you know fossil fuel technology we don't

3214
02:50:52,520 --> 02:50:50,070
have any anything to impress them with

3215
02:50:55,730 --> 02:50:52,530
we don't have any gravity we don't have

3216
02:51:00,010 --> 02:50:55,740
time travel right we're not bending

3217
02:51:03,590 --> 02:51:00,020
space we're not traveling to the stars

3218
02:51:04,130 --> 02:51:03,600
we haven't done anything we haven't done

3219
02:51:07,429 --> 02:51:04,140
anything

3220
02:51:10,250 --> 02:51:07,439
our communication on this planet

3221
02:51:14,600 --> 02:51:10,260
okay oh we've got wireless technology

3222
02:51:18,410 --> 02:51:14,610
you know what we have wires Wireless is

3223
02:51:21,760 --> 02:51:18,420
part of our wired communication network

3224
02:51:22,969 --> 02:51:21,770
you know we're we don't have

3225
02:51:25,760 --> 02:51:22,979
teleportation

3226
02:51:29,689 --> 02:51:25,770
all right we don't have a weed what

3227
02:51:36,829 --> 02:51:29,699
would we impress ET with think about

3228
02:51:39,079 --> 02:51:36,839
that nothing so you know and I just I'm

3229
02:51:41,869 --> 02:51:39,089
fat so yeah we're the hillbillies of the

3230
02:51:44,779 --> 02:51:41,879
universe we haven't we haven't gone to

3231
02:51:47,599 --> 02:51:44,789
the next step of anything I was watching

3232
02:51:52,670 --> 02:51:47,609
last night I was watching an amazing

3233
02:51:54,800 --> 02:51:52,680
documentary on Voyager Voyager 1 and 2

3234
02:51:58,609 --> 02:51:54,810
was just released 2017 released great

3235
02:52:00,289 --> 02:51:58,619
documentary and and it's fascinating and

3236
02:52:02,599 --> 02:52:00,299
you should go and check that out yeah

3237
02:52:05,149 --> 02:52:02,609
Carl Sagan and the gold record and

3238
02:52:07,969 --> 02:52:05,159
what's on it and and how we time the

3239
02:52:10,729 --> 02:52:07,979
flyby into bitter so we can make it out

3240
02:52:13,880 --> 02:52:10,739
to Neptune and and and Saturn and and

3241
02:52:16,699 --> 02:52:13,890
and Uranus and and and all of it yeah ok

3242
02:52:18,859 --> 02:52:16,709
and now they're outside of the solar

3243
02:52:24,999 --> 02:52:18,869
system you know our first interstellar

3244
02:52:29,179 --> 02:52:25,009
craft but but that's that that was 1977

3245
02:52:33,469 --> 02:52:29,189
this is 2017 40 years later when have we

3246
02:52:37,969 --> 02:52:33,479
actually done you know what would we

3247
02:52:42,050 --> 02:52:37,979
impress et with what is it what would we

3248
02:52:45,499 --> 02:52:42,060
step forward with and say we are your

3249
02:52:48,170 --> 02:52:45,509
brothers I mean we we have done this we

3250
02:52:50,989 --> 02:52:48,180
have taken the next step and I'm not too

3251
02:52:54,249 --> 02:52:50,999
sure if we have it certainly wouldn't be

3252
02:53:03,170 --> 02:52:54,259
the iPhone will it with that impress et

3253
02:53:06,619 --> 02:53:03,180
right a Tesla car I don't think so it's

3254
02:53:09,380 --> 02:53:06,629
a it's a fascinating thought would are

3255
02:53:13,099 --> 02:53:09,390
we you know are we somebody that they

3256
02:53:15,619 --> 02:53:13,109
kind of laugh at and and I think so now

3257
02:53:17,630 --> 02:53:15,629
that's not to say that they aren't

3258
02:53:20,719 --> 02:53:17,640
interested of course because there's

3259
02:53:22,939 --> 02:53:20,729
life here of sure absolutely you know

3260
02:53:25,909 --> 02:53:22,949
are they visiting sure absolutely they

3261
02:53:29,899 --> 02:53:25,919
they have to you know this is a planet

3262
02:53:32,359 --> 02:53:29,909
that has life on it so there's that part

3263
02:53:35,840 --> 02:53:32,369
but as far as impressing et with our

3264
02:53:36,660 --> 02:53:35,850
progress no we're still killing each

3265
02:53:40,160 --> 02:53:36,670
other here

3266
02:53:42,870 --> 02:53:40,170
we haven't figured our selves out yet

3267
02:53:46,139 --> 02:53:42,880
right so are we deserving of that

3268
02:53:49,710 --> 02:53:46,149
communication I'm not so sure I'm just

3269
02:53:51,030 --> 02:53:49,720
not just that let's uh let's go to the

3270
02:53:54,479 --> 02:53:51,040
phones how your life I'm fade to black

3271
02:53:58,080 --> 02:53:54,489
who's calling hey Jimmy how are you I'm

3272
02:54:01,790 --> 02:53:58,090
doing good who's calling this is Michael

3273
02:54:03,349 --> 02:54:01,800
from point do Michael from Point Dume

3274
02:54:06,450 --> 02:54:03,359
California

3275
02:54:09,599 --> 02:54:06,460
yeah we've said hi before okay

3276
02:54:11,700 --> 02:54:09,609
what's on your mind man a couple things

3277
02:54:14,479 --> 02:54:11,710
I'm just going to try to capsulize it so

3278
02:54:16,920 --> 02:54:14,489
you can do and run with it

3279
02:54:18,960 --> 02:54:16,930
always like to hear from Linda it was

3280
02:54:24,120 --> 02:54:18,970
kind of concerning to me that she was

3281
02:54:26,399 --> 02:54:24,130
giving so much credit to global warming

3282
02:54:29,370 --> 02:54:26,409
because she wasn't acknowledging the

3283
02:54:31,260 --> 02:54:29,380
Blue Beam that's been going on to

3284
02:54:34,469 --> 02:54:31,270
accelerate fire is always at night

3285
02:54:37,439 --> 02:54:34,479
always 80 miles an hour going on there

3286
02:54:39,960 --> 02:54:37,449
I do also agree with one thing about the

3287
02:54:41,490 --> 02:54:39,970
projectors that's why there's things

3288
02:54:44,760 --> 02:54:41,500
going on with the Sun and the moon that

3289
02:54:48,360 --> 02:54:44,770
seemed to be inconsistent and glitching

3290
02:54:50,490 --> 02:54:48,370
and as far as ETS what have we done it's

3291
02:54:52,950 --> 02:54:50,500
not so much what we have done but what

3292
02:54:56,240 --> 02:54:52,960
we're trying to do that's been repressed

3293
02:54:59,250 --> 02:54:56,250
by the powers that be I think that's why

3294
02:55:03,800 --> 02:54:59,260
they would give us credit is because of

3295
02:55:06,990 --> 02:55:03,810
the desired movement and consistent

3296
02:55:09,750 --> 02:55:07,000
attempts to try to progress even though

3297
02:55:14,370 --> 02:55:09,760
that we are repressed and we're trying

3298
02:55:17,330 --> 02:55:14,380
to get around that somehow true okay and

3299
02:55:22,800 --> 02:55:17,340
and I hear you but let me ask you this

3300
02:55:31,649 --> 02:55:22,810
do you have a bicycle yes okay do you

3301
02:55:33,870 --> 02:55:31,659
think that bicycle would impress et you

3302
02:55:35,610 --> 02:55:33,880
know what I mean that's that's our tech

3303
02:55:37,530 --> 02:55:35,620
now you know that's our that's our

3304
02:55:41,160 --> 02:55:37,540
technical of bicycles you know they're

3305
02:55:45,000 --> 02:55:41,170
fun to ride but you know if you're ET

3306
02:55:47,120 --> 02:55:45,010
looking back at us and they see imagine

3307
02:55:49,770 --> 02:55:47,130
imagine if we went to another planet

3308
02:55:54,930 --> 02:55:49,780
right and any and

3309
02:55:58,650 --> 02:55:54,940
and the the adventists advanced race is

3310
02:56:00,990 --> 02:55:58,660
is walking or riding a bike you know

3311
02:56:02,640 --> 02:56:01,000
that's that's as fun they haven't taken

3312
02:56:06,570 --> 02:56:02,650
things to the next level

3313
02:56:09,600 --> 02:56:06,580
no matter what is repressed or no matter

3314
02:56:12,540 --> 02:56:09,610
what is hidden do we have any gravity

3315
02:56:15,930 --> 02:56:12,550
any gravity technology going on at area

3316
02:56:19,860 --> 02:56:15,940
51 probably but that doesn't mean that's

3317
02:56:21,960 --> 02:56:19,870
how I am getting to the store sometimes

3318
02:56:26,370 --> 02:56:21,970
I'll write a bike you know to go to a

3319
02:56:30,480 --> 02:56:26,380
store to spend money to purchase things

3320
02:56:32,880 --> 02:56:30,490
to bring back to the domicile you know

3321
02:56:36,450 --> 02:56:32,890
what I mean that's where we are in et's

3322
02:56:38,880 --> 02:56:36,460
eyes you know and that's what flips me a

3323
02:56:46,410 --> 02:56:38,890
little it shows sentimentality that they

3324
02:56:49,100 --> 02:56:46,420
don't have how so well you know I don't

3325
02:56:52,650 --> 02:56:49,110
think any AI could ever have the

3326
02:56:55,340 --> 02:56:52,660
sentimentality of having something that

3327
02:56:58,620 --> 02:56:55,350
wasn't exactly cutting edge or

3328
02:57:00,780 --> 02:56:58,630
state-of-the-art orden progression where

3329
02:57:04,160 --> 02:57:00,790
humans have that AI doesn't have in

3330
02:57:07,680 --> 02:57:04,170
other organisms is that we have

3331
02:57:11,160 --> 02:57:07,690
incredible emotions and you know as far

3332
02:57:15,390 --> 02:57:11,170
as Tesla I'm surprised and really I was

3333
02:57:19,290 --> 02:57:15,400
so happy when they finally let Tesla get

3334
02:57:22,380 --> 02:57:19,300
a one one trillions of credit by

3335
02:57:24,390 --> 02:57:22,390
allowing the Tesla car and it's pretty

3336
02:57:27,180 --> 02:57:24,400
amazing even though you know it's not in

3337
02:57:28,560 --> 02:57:27,190
its perfect state but you know there are

3338
02:57:31,200 --> 02:57:28,570
some things that are very impressive

3339
02:57:33,630 --> 02:57:31,210
about us unfortunately most of them are

3340
02:57:36,390 --> 02:57:33,640
used for destruction well that's true

3341
02:57:40,710 --> 02:57:36,400
Mike but then there's this other aspect

3342
02:57:45,390 --> 02:57:40,720
of of us that I'm pretty convinced about

3343
02:57:47,790 --> 02:57:45,400
and that is this 10,000 years from today

3344
02:57:51,450 --> 02:57:47,800
if we haven't blown up this planet but

3345
02:57:55,650 --> 02:57:51,460
10,000 years from today we're not going

3346
02:57:58,680 --> 02:57:55,660
to be us we're not gonna have bodies you

3347
02:58:01,040 --> 02:57:58,690
know we're gonna be advanced beings of

3348
02:58:03,480 --> 02:58:01,050
some kind whether it's light or energy

3349
02:58:05,870 --> 02:58:03,490
do you really think that we

3350
02:58:09,690 --> 02:58:05,880
we will be in this fossil fuel

3351
02:58:13,171 --> 02:58:09,700
carbon-based meat sack I don't think so

3352
02:58:16,591 --> 02:58:13,181
so that's all of those things that

3353
02:58:19,290 --> 02:58:16,601
you're referring to now we're eventually

3354
02:58:21,480 --> 02:58:19,300
gonna let go of I would assume

3355
02:58:24,240 --> 02:58:21,490
I don't think we'll be riding bicycles

3356
02:58:26,690 --> 02:58:24,250
in 10,000 years you know we certainly

3357
02:58:29,940 --> 02:58:26,700
won't be driving cars and we will have

3358
02:58:32,250 --> 02:58:29,950
taken things to the next level so that's

3359
02:58:35,881 --> 02:58:32,260
the way that I look at it as much as I

3360
02:58:38,490 --> 02:58:35,891
love a v8 you know a vintage Ford

3361
02:58:40,640 --> 02:58:38,500
Mustang burning gas and driving that

3362
02:58:43,530 --> 02:58:40,650
thing around with a four on the floor

3363
02:58:45,060 --> 02:58:43,540
that's an exciting exhilarating thing

3364
02:58:47,040 --> 02:58:45,070
but I'm not so sure that that's going to

3365
02:58:50,940 --> 02:58:47,050
be part of our existence in 10,000 years

3366
02:58:52,530 --> 02:58:50,950
I would agree with you but this is one

3367
02:58:54,450 --> 02:58:52,540
thing too and I'm not trying to play

3368
02:58:57,270 --> 02:58:54,460
devil's advocate I'm just stating what's

3369
02:59:00,360 --> 02:58:57,280
real I think that's why ET is so

3370
02:59:03,301 --> 02:59:00,370
interested in us as well is because

3371
02:59:05,430 --> 02:59:03,311
there are things like maglev trains that

3372
02:59:08,970 --> 02:59:05,440
go from coast to coast in two and a half

3373
02:59:13,230 --> 02:59:08,980
minutes a lot of technology that we are

3374
02:59:16,860 --> 02:59:13,240
not as a whole being allowed to use not

3375
02:59:19,860 --> 02:59:16,870
misused but helped flourish and help the

3376
02:59:22,500 --> 02:59:19,870
general people that the government calls

3377
02:59:25,320 --> 02:59:22,510
us progress and I think that's why

3378
02:59:28,350 --> 02:59:25,330
there's an interest in us so much is

3379
02:59:31,051 --> 02:59:28,360
because they want to help us they want

3380
02:59:33,720 --> 02:59:31,061
to try to help figure it out and they

3381
02:59:37,560 --> 02:59:33,730
they actually do have some sort of

3382
02:59:41,250 --> 02:59:37,570
interest outside of the emotionless AI

3383
02:59:43,200 --> 02:59:41,260
type of stereotype that interests them

3384
02:59:47,370 --> 02:59:43,210
and that's probably why we've had our

3385
02:59:48,841 --> 02:59:47,380
life prolonged this farm that again I'm

3386
02:59:53,430 --> 02:59:48,851
with you on that

3387
02:59:55,470 --> 02:59:53,440
I mean to have a positive view of things

3388
02:59:57,720 --> 02:59:55,480
that's the way that I look at life I

3389
03:00:00,870 --> 02:59:57,730
totally agree with you and then there's

3390
03:00:05,580 --> 03:00:00,880
the reality the reality side of things

3391
03:00:08,671 --> 03:00:05,590
is this how would we possibly you know

3392
03:00:12,801 --> 03:00:08,681
I'm talking about a reality sense how

3393
03:00:16,171 --> 03:00:12,811
would we possibly communicate with

3394
03:00:16,350 --> 03:00:16,181
something that was a million years you

3395
03:00:19,051 --> 03:00:16,360
know

3396
03:00:23,940 --> 03:00:19,061
advanced from us I mean how would we

3397
03:00:30,060 --> 03:00:23,950
possibly do that it in the same aspect

3398
03:00:33,810 --> 03:00:30,070
of if we went if a hundred thousand year

3399
03:00:35,700 --> 03:00:33,820
old if we went back in time and and

3400
03:00:40,140 --> 03:00:35,710
we're hanging out with me and earth all

3401
03:00:42,540 --> 03:00:40,150
right cro-magnon man how how would that

3402
03:00:51,000 --> 03:00:42,550
communication go down I'm not so sure

3403
03:00:52,440 --> 03:00:51,010
that it could you know I know I don't I

3404
03:00:55,680 --> 03:00:52,450
don't think so i don't think that they

3405
03:00:59,551 --> 03:00:55,690
could relate to us in any aspect you

3406
03:01:01,620 --> 03:00:59,561
know we would what about again i Batman

3407
03:01:07,410 --> 03:01:01,630
I you know what we will probably give

3408
03:01:10,230 --> 03:01:07,420
them heart attacks I just don't you know

3409
03:01:13,770 --> 03:01:10,240
I just don't I just don't know how that

3410
03:01:16,710 --> 03:01:13,780
could possibly go down the disconnect

3411
03:01:19,290 --> 03:01:16,720
with a motive I don't know any emotion I

3412
03:01:23,180 --> 03:01:19,300
you know think just think about how

3413
03:01:25,950 --> 03:01:23,190
trippy that would be you know or even

3414
03:01:26,910 --> 03:01:25,960
you know what they'll forget about a

3415
03:01:29,460 --> 03:01:26,920
hundred thousand years

3416
03:01:31,950 --> 03:01:29,470
what about two thousand years you know

3417
03:01:34,290 --> 03:01:31,960
you with your intelligence everything

3418
03:01:37,680 --> 03:01:34,300
that you know about everything and you

3419
03:01:40,020 --> 03:01:37,690
were able to go back to 3000 BC you know

3420
03:01:42,270 --> 03:01:40,030
and just life you know whip out a bit

3421
03:01:45,320 --> 03:01:42,280
lighter out of your pocket not a cell

3422
03:01:47,940 --> 03:01:45,330
phone you know how about a bit lighter

3423
03:01:52,380 --> 03:01:47,950
you would blow minds

3424
03:01:54,570 --> 03:01:52,390
you know I will far and so now if we

3425
03:01:56,551 --> 03:01:54,580
look at it in the same way how would we

3426
03:01:59,610 --> 03:01:56,561
connect with that type of intelligence

3427
03:02:02,400 --> 03:01:59,620
that would be you know a million years

3428
03:02:04,980 --> 03:02:02,410
you know I I don't know well I think

3429
03:02:06,750 --> 03:02:04,990
Jimmy just like this um you'll you'll

3430
03:02:09,270 --> 03:02:06,760
hear what's a lot of cases and I also

3431
03:02:11,160 --> 03:02:09,280
believe this very seriously it's a

3432
03:02:13,980 --> 03:02:11,170
common trait of what I believe to be

3433
03:02:20,060 --> 03:02:13,990
truth is that you'll hear that abductees

3434
03:02:23,340 --> 03:02:20,070
or experiencers are shown photos videos

3435
03:02:26,310 --> 03:02:23,350
pictures of this type and I think that

3436
03:02:29,790 --> 03:02:26,320
the visual obviously there's something

3437
03:02:33,000 --> 03:02:29,800
that we are worth more than just

3438
03:02:35,820 --> 03:02:33,010
being wasted people here on this planet

3439
03:02:39,690 --> 03:02:35,830
because they still showing a great deal

3440
03:02:43,950 --> 03:02:39,700
of interest and are making attempts to

3441
03:02:46,320 --> 03:02:43,960
try to give us help and give us pictures

3442
03:02:46,800 --> 03:02:46,330
and trying to communicate well guess

3443
03:02:49,650 --> 03:02:46,810
what

3444
03:02:52,349 --> 03:02:49,660
we'd be dust a long time ago yeah yeah I

3445
03:02:55,200 --> 03:02:52,359
totally again you make all the right

3446
03:02:57,440 --> 03:02:55,210
points Mike and thank you for being the

3447
03:02:59,730 --> 03:02:57,450
last call the only call tonight and

3448
03:03:01,260 --> 03:02:59,740
we'll see we'll see you tomorrow night

3449
03:03:03,960 --> 03:03:01,270
on the show thank you so much Mike

3450
03:03:06,090 --> 03:03:03,970
behaving good well I hope the supplier

3451
03:03:07,950 --> 03:03:06,100
doesn't do anything with you and I

3452
03:03:09,330 --> 03:03:07,960
promise if you look into it what we're

3453
03:03:11,550 --> 03:03:09,340
gonna have videos coming out that it's

3454
03:03:12,320 --> 03:03:11,560
blue bean I'll talk to you thank you

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Mike

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have a great night all right well that

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will wrap another episode of fade to

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black right here on the game-changer

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Network I do want to thank Linda Moulton

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Howe for coming in tonight and at doing

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this once again this year on the show

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and also I want to remind everybody that

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tomorrow night our guest is David Icke

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live from London England we will be

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discussing his new book it's gonna be a

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great night I'll see everybody tomorrow

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fade to black executive producers Rita

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Kumari on shows produced by Hill Jay

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Paul man Rene thank you to Dennis thank

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you Bob announces our Steve Harvey Jean

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Patou MRD Cove our webmaster drew the

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produced by kjsurya Consent occation is

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i'm your host jimmy church follow me on

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Jimmy church radio calm tomorrow night

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David Icke but until then

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I want everybody to be safe Gobekli Tepe